Shipping ammo

12 June 2011, 20:27

airgun1

Shipping ammo

I need the legal info for shipping 25 rds of 416 Rem ammo.

I want the legal requirements not what people have done in the past.

I know it must go ground; I plan on using UPS.

What are the marking requirements? Do I need ORM-D Small Arms Ammunitiion or will ORM-D Consumer Commodities work and then add Small Arms Ammunition with a Marker? Or does this small of a quantity not require labeling?

12 June 2011, 20:33

BaxterB

Safest thing if to call your LOCAL UPS. WHY? IF you call corporate are you get one answer then go to the local place and get another, you are screwed. Go straight to the local guy, he will be the one to accept the package anyway.

12 June 2011, 21:08

kcstott

I won't tell you what I did but I will tell you how ammo was shipped to me from places like Cabela's and Bass pro shops.

Ground Only with an adult signature required. No ORM-D on the box or shipping lable. I've received it this way from both UPS and USPS. Ammunition is not considered as hazardous as say powder and primers

But As BAxter said Go to the shipper and ask as they will accept the package. Get what you can in writing so you can argue latter on.

But In reality just drop it in a box and ship it. Pack it good and don't worry about it. If UPS and USPS were that good about finding out who and what was shipped those anthrax letters would have never made it to their victims

13 June 2011, 01:23

Mike in Michigan

The box MUST be marked "ORM-D" to keep it on the ground and off any aircraft. Both UPS and Fed-Ex will put Ground shipments into the air if it is in their best interest. The pre-loading sniffers will pick up the smell of ammo and you will be getting unwanted visitors.
Do not include "Small Arms Ammunition" on it.

13 June 2011, 07:58

kend

We ship ammo almost every day and the only requirement, other than shipping Ground, is the addition of a label that reads "ORM-D, Small Arms Cartridges".

Quantity doesn't matter, one or a thousand.

13 June 2011, 08:20

craigster

quote:
Originally posted by kcstott:
I won't tell you what I did but I will tell you how ammo was shipped to me from places like Cabela's and Bass pro shops.

Ground Only with an adult signature required. No ORM-D on the box or shipping lable. I've received it this way from both UPS and USPS. Ammunition is not considered as hazardous as say powder and primers

But As BAxter said Go to the shipper and ask as they will accept the package. Get what you can in writing so you can argue latter on.

But In reality just drop it in a box and ship it. Pack it good and don't worry about it. If UPS and USPS were that good about finding out who and what was shipped those anthrax letters would have never made it to their victims

I'm quite surprised that you had ammo shipped to you from Cabela's or BassPro via the USPS. It is illegal to do so.

13 June 2011, 17:39

airgun1

Thanks for the info. I searched elsewhere and it seems that the ORM-D Cartridges, Small Arms needs marked on 3 sides.

Interestingly I read that it is legal to ship small arms ammunition by USPS but the USPS just doesn't want to address the DOT requirements. I will ship UPS to be safe.

13 June 2011, 19:57

craigster

Not legal to ship ammunition.

See 341.21:

http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/...2c3_016.htm#ep898630

13 June 2011, 20:07

larrys

I believe you can go to the UPS or USPS site and download images of the ORM-D label as well. It absolutely does NOT have to go signature required, but it is a good idea. I have it shipped to me all the time and I ask the sellers, mainly Midsouth, Grafs and Sportsman's guide, to ship without signature required and they are all happy to do so. I live in a very safe area for these type deliveries.

Some UPS stores will not take it. The depots will.

Other than that, just send it ground.

14 June 2011, 10:51

kend

quote:
Originally posted by larrys:
I believe you can go to the UPS or USPS site and download images of the ORM-D label as well.

PM your address and I'll send you a sheet of 30....

15 June 2011, 07:32

SR4759

Ammo can be shipped but it must stay on the ground and must have the ORM-D lable.

The regulations are on the internet.

15 June 2011, 07:33

SR4759

quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
Not legal to ship ammunition.

See 341.21:

http://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/...2c3_016.htm#ep898630

Not true.
It is just not legal to send it by the postal service.

15 June 2011, 07:49

craigster

Well, since the link is to the USPS, I assumed most people would figure that out.

15 July 2011, 06:28

Bigbird34

I always ship ammo UPS ground. You can't ship ammo to Mass,not even Cabelas can ship ammo to Mass! and to Illinois ,the person receiving needs a FOID (Fed ID) to be able to receive the ammo ....

UPS states "ORM-D' marked ,in a 200 lb burst resistant cardboard box .....

My 2 cents BB