I seldom ask for much but this time I'm just in too deep. A guy brought in a Browning A5 shotgun that was just locked up solid as the dog that ate the entire lasagna. I got it apart, and found the part that came loose and after some prying, hammering and swearing I managed to get it free. But for the life of me I can't find it anywhere on the schematic. It's a semi automatic shotgun so obviously it's part of the gas system or possibly the piston return springs but I'm at a total loss.

The shit you don't find in a gun huh?

A5 Shotgun by Rod Henrickson, on Flickr

Its the new mandated safety key to keep it from being used by unauthorized users.

You might want to run that gun thru the po-lice to make sure that it isn't hot since the guy who brought it in didn't figger that out...

Obviously he is an unauthorized user!

Maybe trying to slow it down for extra heavy loads?

I bet if one tried very very hard, he would not have been able to put it there!

I have now seen it all

It's the gas key.

I beleive it's a bolt retention key.
Pretty rare. You should hold on to it, it might be worth nothing some day.

Like I told the guys on the Colorado School of Trades Alumni forum. I have seen 10,000 of those things. Most of you have seen them too. Once you realize exactly what it fits, you know EGGFAWKINGZACKERY how it got in there too! It didn't take the CST group long to figure it out. lol

That's the very rare gas lock system enhancement for the A-5. It's an add on, not from the factory. However, it requires precise fitting, and it can significantly speed up the lock time of the gun. It can release a bolt, or turn a lock. It's keyed to the individual user, even those who pick their locks. Usually, it's attached to a chain, or a ring but sometimes is a precisely cut stone.

How did he lock the gun case with the key in the gun?

CST ? When I was there someone brought in a pump or auto shotgun .We checked it out and found most of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich stuffed into the action. When asked if he had children the owner said yes but he strictly prohibited them to touch the guns .Next question -showing the PB&J sandwich we asked 'then who stuffed the sandwich into the action ?'

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Originally posted by mete:
CST ? When I was there someone brought in a pump or auto shotgun .We checked it out and found most of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich stuffed into the action. When asked if he had children the owner said yes but he strictly prohibited them to touch the guns .Next question -showing the PB&J sandwich we asked 'then who stuffed the sandwich into the action ?'

The dog did it. I saw it on Family Guy. So it must be true. LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVPNXsc4wsQ

What a great way to arrive on a hunt..

Some of the older A-5 had a bumper and it was rivet in the back of the receiver for the bolt to bump on

usual made of fiber material and when bluing the A-r you lost it and most folks never replaced

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Originally posted by rodger wright:
Some of the older A-5 had a bumper and it was rivet in the back of the receiver for the bolt to bump on

My grandfather's Remington 11 has one riveted inside. I'm 65 so that is an old-time mod. My uncle may have had it done when he originally got the gun but that still puts it as a 50s-60s fix. Supposedly reinforced the hump which in some older guns was cracking from the "new fangled" magnum loads. You can just make out the rivet from the outside. The reinforcement plate is steel.

That's just crazy...never would have expected that. Thanks for posting it.

I checked with Gun Parts Corp. and they are currently out of stock ...

Guys never lock those hard gun cases but they don't want to lose the key, "just in case they may have to lock it some day" so they just toss the key in the case. Well, those keys like to travel around in those cases on the way to the range. Have a chat with the gun, mingle with the ammo and tell dirty jokes to the cleaning stuff. Sooner or later fate kicks in, they get into something they have no business being in and POOF, W.T.F. ! ! ! !

Yeah, that seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Originally posted by speerchucker30x378:
Guys never lock those hard gun cases but they don't want to lose the key, "just in case they may have to lock it some day" so they just toss the key in the case. Well, those keys like to travel around in those cases on the way to the range. Have a chat with the gun, mingle with the ammo and tell dirty jokes to the cleaning stuff. Sooner or later fate kicks in, they get into something they have no business being in and POOF, W.T.F. ! ! ! !

Yeah, that seemed like a good idea at the time.

If it's not the guncase key, my thought was someone used a key to try and pry a shell out, got the key hung up in it somehow, and doesn't want to own up to it.

Nupe. The guy picked it up today. He's gonna hammer the key straight again and put it back in his case. LOL