Hello and thanks:

I am looking for an Enfield P14 action, in good shape for a project. Any links to a site that might sell one? Or is anyone looking to sell one? I am looking for one with the Winchester or Remington Stamp.

Thanks
Frank D

Do a search on this site. This subject was just covered a little while ago. - Dan

If you can't find one let me know. A local smith has a box of P-14 actions.

What the major difference between the 1917 and the p14? I have heard that they don't have interchangable parts.

Red

Lar I sent you an email.

Dago: A few of my buddies have built some nice wildcats out of them and claim they can be used for the magnum calibers. That and they are cheap is why I am leaning toward it. It will be another good father son project!

Frank D

[ 05-29-2003, 02:12: Message edited by: frank d ]

Frank,

I totally understand, I am waiting for a .458 on a 1917 to come out of the shop. :-)

I am curious about the difference between the p14 and the 1917. I have only seen p14's in pictures and visually they looked the same as the 1917 to me.

Red

Dago: Good luck with your project post some pictures when its done!

Frank D

Because the P14 was originally set up for rimmed cartridges (303 British)the bolt face, ,stop, extractor, follower and magazine box were diffferent then the P17's, which was set up for the 30-06. Off hand, that's all I remember, but the P14 allows you to set the action up for some big cases without a lot of machining on the bolt. That's about the only easy part though, they require a lot of work to make a nice sporter. don't get me wrong, I think they're worth it (I have a half dozen or so), but if you are paying someone else to do the work, this gets expensive very fast. - Dan

Hi Lar45,

If you get a chance please email me the smiths # who has the p14 actions.....

Thanks
Frank D

Dago, there are a few differences, but most parts are actually interchangeable, the whole striker mechanism, trigger and trigger guard being a prime example. The ejector blade is a different size, as is the magazine box and follower. The bolt of one will fit the receiver of the other, but the camming angles may be subtly different. However, I have never had a problem using a '17 bolt in a '14 receiver.

The breeching is slightly different, of course. The '17 utilizes a coned breech while the '14 is flat. The exctractors are different, too.

In short, they're both strong and extremely versatile actions with probably the best safety found on any military rifle.

P17,

I use to have Stuart Otteson's book Bolt Actions and that book had all the details on the M17. The book has never been returned.

Is there a web site that has the action details/dimensions etc. of the M17 and P14

Mike

Question for P17, Dan or Anyone else who knows,

Can the magazine box on a p14 be eliminated to streamline the look of the rifle and it be used as a single shot? I am looking to use something like a Davidson loading ramp? The rifle will be a custom modern looking wildcat. I have a few wildcats built from M700 actions and wanted to try something different.

Frank D

Frank,

I have several that were converted to single shot by having a plate welded along the bottom of the action.

I don't think it's necessarily trivial, however, as my gunsmith who seems to be able to do just about anything has the welding done by a relative that welds for a living.

I know practically nothing about welding so take that for what it's worth (damned little).

Good luck.

Reed

I've seen a couple of P14's converted to single shots, but I've never built one myself. A plug could be machined to fit the magazine opening, tapered and then welded into place, without too much trouble I think. I would be apprehensive about welding near the front receiver ring though. I've never tried the single shot adapter you mentioned, but I think it's made of aluminum. Which would make it easier to shape. I think this would be a do-able project. FWIW - Dan

Mike, I'm sure there is a website out there, and I'll look into it for you. In the meantime, you might want to check out Frank Dehaas's book "Bolt Action Rifles".

Regarding the conversion to single shot, it is certainly possible. I've had it done for my .308 target rifle and it works. The only thing your gunsmith needs to be aware of when doing this welding is to ensure that the front of the receiver is properly heat-sunk. This is crucial because a screw-up here could mean that the most important part of the action -- the part that bears all the backthrust of the bolt and prevents it from blowing up -- is softened.

Another option that I'm experimenting with is to use a stock with no inletting for a magazine box. The receiver is bedded solidly into the stock the conventional way, and the stock is obviously stiffer.

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I went by the gun shop, but he doesn't have them anymore. I looked at them when I built my 30-378 on a P-17. He had a whole box full of them, but no one showed any interest in them so he sold the whole lot off to a guy north of here. I'm trying to track him down. I'll post If I find him.

Sorry.

I do have a complete Winchester P-17 British war reserve 30-06, but plan on keeping it.