I would like this gun to shoot a little more consistant. Its present state is completly stock. I know that many float the barrel and glass bed the action. First, is this accomplished with simply the Accra-glass(gel or original?) kit from Brownells? If so, does that contain good instructions as I've never done this.
Or, is an HS Precision Stock a good replacement for the Rem synthetic? Althought, that is $259 at Cabelas, and I picked this gun up for $300?

Any glass bed instructions online somplace?

I did the exact same thing your asking. Bought a 700 ADL for 300 from my uncle, it had the ugly walnut stock with pressed checkering and an old Redfield 2-7x. I got a Bell and Carlson for Christmas last year the tan & black web. The fit was not perfect buy all means,using inletting black from brownels to find the high spots and sand them down. Check the barrel channel every time you put the stock and action together.

If you take out to much its okay the agriglas will fill in the voids. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTION THAT COME WITH THE AGRIGLAS.

I put a buisness card between the barrel and forearm tip to keep it from touching the barrel channel to free float the barrel

bughole-

Welcome to AR!

You have a fine rifle, but that factory synthetic stock is tough to bed. Most bedding materials won't stick well to it. Roughen it up a bunch before you try to bed it. I've seen guys actually drill a bunch of holes at an angle (don't go all the way through! ) under the action to give the "glass" something to physically lock in to. Bedding isn't hard, just take your time, and put release agent on EVERYTHING that you want to get free again! Once you get it bedded, that stock will still flex a lot. I love Remingtons, but not that stock.

The HS Precision stock is a great stock. Yeah, it's not cheap, but then again, neither is a McMillan, Brown Precision, etc. It is money well spent to upgrade your rifle. You put that thing in a good stock, and you're gonna have a great little rig.

Have fun!

thanks guys. THe Bell and Carlson isnt available for ADl short action(at least not from Cabelas).
Sounds like to make a change, better to go for the HS stock, if even bedding the Rem stock will have it still flex

Two other questions on that HS stock. Does that float the barrell, and is it simply a screw in fit, or should it be glass bedded?

Cold Bore - what is skim coat?

Also, I had just taken this action out of my stock and put some gun grease on the underside to protect from weather(cold - condensation). Would that have effected it at all?

I am curious though about the HS Preceision stock. May try one

Cold Bore -
I checked Brownells. Are you referring to "Steel Bed"?

Thanks Cold Bore -
One more. On SAt I took the action out of my stock, cleaned underneath and put a thin coat of Hoppes gun grease on it to protect. Is this a no-no?

Sorry, I just noticed that I did ask you this.

So, no oil, grease or anything under the action?
I shall remove if thats the case.

In an unbedded synthetic stock, it probably won't make much difference. However, once you bed it, don't put anything like that on it. It can affect (soften) the bedding, depending on what you use to bed & what kind of "grease" you use. What I usually do is take some furniture, floor, or car wax, thin it with mineral spirits, then "paint" it on with a brush. It gets in every little crevice that way. After it dries, I buff it off, leaving a very thin layer (just like doing your car). The wax protects it, and doesn't affect anything.

BTW, the wax trick is what I also use for a release agent when bedding. Paint it on all of the metal, well beyond where you expect to get bedding material, allow it to dry, then proceed with your bedding process.

well, I ordered the HS Precision Stock from Cabelas(black web/sporter). In searching I see many get used ADL's and upgrade with HS stock.

With the Aluminum bedding, should I be fine to leave the thin coat of grease on the action, or strip with brake cleaner?

Good choice bughole. I think you'll be happy with it.

As for the "grease", it probably won't hurt, if that's what you like to use. Being completely synthetic and aluminum, you don't really have anything to hurt in the stock. Like I said, I put wax on mine. It will never "ooze" out, collect dirt & grit, creep into the trigger & gum it up, etc. Once you put it on, it stays right there.

Let us know how it turns out once you get the stock on & shoot it!

I will let you know how it goes. Glad I went for it. It should be a great upgrade. I see others use the HS a lot

After cleaning my barrell(had been awhile), I shot a 3 shot .252 group at 100yds with the Rem Syn stock. Still, I think the HS will shot a wider range of loads better

havent received the HS stock yet. having thoughts of simply returning since my gun shoots as good as it does now. My problem, I believe, was that the barell was too dirty.
Also, I've read that sporter barrels are better with the tip support, and not floated.
Thoughts?

I don't think you will improve that group with the other stock off the bench. Now shooting with a tight sling may change your groups.

I have a 700 ADL Syn, in 243 and it shoots very well too (After I gave it a good cleaning). I bedded the entire stock, from the action to the fore end tip. It did make the stock more rigid. Most of my Rem 700's shoot better with some pressure at the tip. Mine don't like free floated barrels.

I am thinking of putting a wood stock on it though. I like wood stocks.

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I can understand the tight sling effecting POI. How about using a bipod? Usually when using one, I lean into the bipod a bit. Will bipod use improve with the HS?
I'm just getting the feeling I should leave well enough alone. Could be worth trying out, as long as I dont have to do any cutting to fit it

If it is the plastic stock, it responds very well to pillar bedding. Conventional glass bedding doesn't work well. The plastic moves way too much and the only bedding material I've found that sticks to it is Brownells Steel Bed.

It is the plastic stock. I'm nota gunsmith, so dont know hos to pillar bed.
I do see how it is flimsy. I steup in the long bipod and leaned into it as I sometimes do. This pulls the stock down, away from the barrell.
I dont know. Might be worth trying the HS stock out and see how it flies

I received the HS Precision Stock. I have installed my barred-action in the stock. No bedding, just installed as HS reccommends. I must say, I was very surprised at how loose this was in the stock before tightening the screws up. Teh entire action could easily move back and forth. The slot for the barrell lug was very generous.
On the Rem synthetic stock it is a very snug fit.
I will shoot this weekend from the bench to see.
Again, with a carefully worked up load, I have shot 1/4" groups from the bench with the ADL stock. If these open a lot, the stock will be returned. It is a very nice looking stock, I like the feel of it, and how much stuffer it is.
We'll see

Well, I shot it -
First 3 shots from a cold, clean bore clustered into near 1/4". Here's where I got stupid though. I then adjusted the scope (Simmons 6.5-20x 44mag) because poi wasnt where I wanted for yote hunting. I already decided that the stock was fine.
Next 3 shot group was again nearly 1/4", but the group didnt move. I again adjusted scope. Now, the next two 3 shot groups were crappy - 1", and one stringed.

Let all cool. Then I started getting one hole 3 shot groups. I adjusted the scope slightly, shot and it was fine.

So, I believe my scope may have taken a bit to "settle"(should get better glass), but I do think the stock should be fine.

The last 2 shot one hole was eaxactly 2" high. But, after cooling a lot, a third shot was half inch lower.

I'm using a handload with 50gr vmax and 27gr w748.
I have heard of w748 being erratic in the cold weather, which it was very cold - low teens.

oh, also I took 2 shots from the bipods(long sitting position) with scope at 20x. I had two shots touching at 100 yds, right on target.
I've never shot that well with the bipods. With the original stiock it really flexed the stock.

I'm planning to keep the stock. Working on different loads also using w748 w/ erger 52gr mef's and 55gr vmax. I also just picked up 1lb of 2015 to try.

Forgot to mention - I did no cleaning at the range between groups. That may effect my trying to adjust scope from the first 3 shots from clean bore. This gun appears to prefer clean bore. I just forgot my cleaning stuff.
I may hunt yotes in the morning, so I'm going to leave the barrell as is

i owned a 700 bdl [new] the drinking straw 24 inch barrel same as adl cost me hundreds of $$ in lost income before i woke up to the fact that only 5 out of 10 of these cheap mass produced guns shoot any where near half decent.do what you like there no good.

Well, I must have a good one. THis gun of mine does group quite well, for the most part.

bughole-

Glad to hear it's working for you & that you like it. I figured you would.

Have fun!

I got a 700 ADL in 223 with the synthetic stock and that indescribable finish. As it is to be used as a short range coyote rifle in east Texas I cut the barrel to 20 inches and started working with bullets from Hornady and Sierra weighing 60 grains. After adjusting the trigger and glassing the forearm to provide no pressure but close fit to the barrel (touching) it shoots better than I could have imagined. I also used 748 to work up my loads and 25.0 grains provides a lot of groups around 1/2 inch. This stock never really had a flexing problem to begin with and I would have been well served with a rifle that shot into 1 1/4 inch. Barrel break in was brushed clean with Hoppes bench rest after each 3 round group 10 times and I have a barrel that does not copper foul discernably and will keep shooting tight groups through at least 40 shots. I have owned a bunch of Remingtons and can honestly say everyone of them was very accurate.

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