adams&bennet barrels?

18 July 2007, 13:06

tsturm

quote:
Originally posted by yes:
Hi
How good A&B barrels are? os it worth to try ? i will buy as reserv for my hunting rifles,because these are cheap here,
regards
yes

You get what you pay for

The only one I ever saw I sent back to Midway for a refund

18 July 2007, 14:32

vapodog

I've only installed one and the owner said it worked very well.

I really don't like them as their contours are heavy for me......just too much meat at the muzzle for a light weight sporter and the length is 21" when some folks would prefer a bit longer.

Yes, they have longer barrels too but then the muzzle is larger again.

The only ones with a nice #1 contour is for small thread Mausers.

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18 July 2007, 16:15

hivelosity

I have a few and they are all very good shooters. one ss heavy barrel in 308 shoots 5 shot 1/2" groups and has no fouling.
the only complaint was the finish is a little rough.

18 July 2007, 16:38

jeffeosso

used several, installed a couple more, and a friend has installed ALOT of them.... if MOA or so is your definition of a good hunting rifle, they are fine...

the one in my 416 ar is 1/3 MOA, a frickin laser beam

and yeah, they are a bit heavy, generally 1 full step to much

18 July 2007, 17:44

weagle

I've used several of them and they shot fine, no real tackdrivers, but no clunkers either.

I know one thing. You can blue them with Oxpho Blue cream and they will look better than most factory rifles.

Weagle

18 July 2007, 17:49

STexhunter

Used a A&B barrel on a barrel swap in 35 Whelen on a Savage and am pleased with its performance so far. I found this barrel to be no rougher than the factory Savage barrels if that tells you anything. Good barrel for the price and mine shoots good. Groups run 1.25 are less consisently.

18 July 2007, 18:15

22WRF

My brother has one in .300 WM that was installed on a Mark X action. It is a bit heavy and could have probably been cut down a little bit. But it shoots very well with his loads (I don't know what they are) and he is happy with it as a hunting rifle.

18 July 2007, 18:37

Masterifleman

I have one in .458WINMAG on a MarkX and it shoots MOA. For the price ($75.00), they're good.

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18 July 2007, 22:37

DannyH

I have used a few and am very pleased with the
accuracy, especiall the 260 rem's I built and a 6.5-06. For the money they are a good deal to me
Dan

19 July 2007, 03:39

Alberta Canuck

I don't know that this is correct, but it is the way I view barrels:

All makers make "hummers", and all makers turn out "bummers" too.

The top makers (both reputation and prices) make maybe 3% hummers, and maybe 3% bummers. All the rest of their production (94%) are good, normal, reliable MOA or less barrels as could be turned out by any maker.

The least expensive barrel makers still make 1% or 2% hummers, and maybe 5% or 6% bummers. All the rest of their production (92%) are good, normal barrels as could be turned out by any maker.

Given, everyone can substitute their own % estimates for the numbers I have used above, and be just as likely correct. My point is simply that I believe most of the time barrels are pretty much similar in quality. It is at the "hummer" and "bummer" ends of the probability curve that name and price really seem to count these days. High price = better chance of a "hummer" and less chance of a "bummer".

That said, except on competition rifles, I have no problem trying just about any brand on the market if the rifle's owner or I get a good enough deal on it.

19 July 2007, 05:34

craigster

I've used a half dozen or so A&B barrels. They might be a bit on the rough side as far as finish goes, but I have yet to get a "bummer" in the accuracy department.

19 July 2007, 06:47

bartsche

In all seriousness my memory may be playing tricks on me, but in talking , some time back, to the "Shaw honcho" he told me they use to make the AB barrels.

Also I have 3 AB barrels that are just fine and the degree of cleaning they require is FAR less than any of my Savage made rifles and I have 5 of those.

roger

20 July 2007, 03:26

tnekkcc

I got some in 2000 that were horrible; bent and with very rough bore.

I hear the quality is way up now, but I still have a bad attitude.

20 July 2007, 03:33

Westpac

quote:
Originally posted by yes:
Hi
How good A&B barrels are? os it worth to try ? i will buy as reserv for my hunting rifles,because these are cheap here,
regards
yes

They are cheap here too!

20 July 2007, 03:42

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
In all seriousness my memory may be playing tricks on me, but in talking , some time back, to the "Shaw honcho" he told me they use to make the AB barrels.

..roger

Roger,
AB is owned by midway/potterfield and they make their own barrels... aint shaw, aint savage, aint green mountain

yeah, they sure don't shoot

20 July 2007, 06:37

TSJ

quote:
AB is owned by midway/potterfield and they make their own barrels... aint shaw, aint savage, aint green mountain

yeah, they sure don't shoot

Last I knew midway is just a distributer, not a barrel maker.
Last time I went to green mountain over in NH they had piles of barrels going into A&B boxes on their way to Midway. I bought a few over-runs in the standard contours. They make good barrels, I think others have made them in the past, some so-so, but green mountain makes a good tube. It's no big secret, call them and they'll tell you they make them for Midway, NEF and others. They had a stack of the most beautifull Thompson barrels( with fins) I've ever seen. They can do very nice work there.

20 July 2007, 06:48

TMG

I've used them and found them to shoot okay, but their contours are clubby - yuck! How hard could it be to cut a nice concave radius?

Although I imagine there is a thought behind their radii - easy to inlet a stock for them.

Todd

20 July 2007, 07:15

bartsche

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
In all seriousness my memory may be playing tricks on me, but in talking , some time back, to the "Shaw honcho" he told me they use to make the AB barrels.

..roger

Roger,
AB is owned by midway/potterfield and they make their own barrels... aint shaw, aint savage, aint green mountain

Sorry Jeff but I really feel you crystal ball is cloudy.

roger

20 July 2007, 07:31

z1r

Shaw did make them for A&B at one time. I was told that by Midway over the phone. Who they source them to these days is beyond me because the one experience I had with A&B was not good. If they are being made by a better manfacturer these days then good for the consumer.

20 July 2007, 16:43

jeffeosso

Hmm,
like outers, midway was been "quietly" buying up brands, names, and manf. capabilities..

under the name of batternfeldtechnologies

http://www.battenfeldtechnologies.com/index.html

the COMPANIES that larry has include

caldwell, fajen, frankford arsenal (i think they actually started this one) Miloes gilbert, past, tipton, wheeler, and ADAMS AND BENNETT

while some/part/all of the manfuactoring of these products may be outsourced (who doesn't?) to other companies, midway provides the spec and quality requirements. A whole lot like a military rifle being made by 4 different contractors.. but it's not a WINCHESTER rifle when the enfield says W

Cloudy? could be..

20 July 2007, 18:24

z1r

Jeff,

I used to work for a lighting company and all the products we sold with OUR name on them were made for us by someone else.

Also, some companies are founded mostly for the tax benefits they can provide.

Like I say, regardless of WHO makes the barrels for A&B now or whether they themselves make them, I was told directly by Midway years ago that Shaw was making them at THAT time. There were numerous magazine articles way back then that mentioned this fact too.

20 July 2007, 23:28

bartsche

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
In all seriousness my memory may be playing tricks on me, but in talking , some time back, to the "Shaw honcho" he told me they use to make the AB barrels.

..roger

Roger,
AB is owned by midway/potterfield and they make their own barrels... aint shaw, aint savage, aint green mountain

You know, Jeff. when you make contradictory statments like this and ware the title of moderator, people think you are an authority and you are right.

A "cloudy? could be" retraction is rather weak compared to your original statement.

roger

21 July 2007, 03:28

jeffeosso

Roger...
with a bunch of humor and trying to have a laughing voice
green mountain may be an out sourced partner for midway's AB barrels...

shaw, from a call with shaw a couple years ago, never did/....

but, if a cat had kittens in an oven, would you call them bisquits?

nope, they would be AB barrels LOL

21 July 2007, 03:30

jeffeosso

let me say it a different way...

green mountain never SOLD, to a person, an AB barrel... even if they made them all, it's a midway owned comapny name and product...

21 July 2007, 03:32

bartsche

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Roger...
okay
green mountain may be an out sourced partner for midway's AB barrels...

shaw, from a call with shaw a couple years ago, never did/....

but, if a cat had kittens in an oven, would you call them bisquits?

nope, they would be AB barrels LOL

I liked your retraction before you edited it. Went against the grain I guess.

roger

21 July 2007, 04:35

jeffeosso

i made a mistake..

green mountain may very well make them for midway...

jeffe

21 July 2007, 04:52

vapodog

As far as I know, the only place one can get an A&B branded barrel is thru Midway.....regardless of who makes them.

Personally, I could care less who makes them because If I want an A&B I have to go to Midway!

It's surprising to see the number of positive comments on this thread as most threads about A&B barrels are quite mixed.

A local friend uses them a lot and is very satisfied with them.....they are just too heavy for me!

21 July 2007, 08:21

bartsche

quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
It's surprising to see the number of positive comments on this thread as most threads about A&B barrels are quite mixed.

.....they are just too heavy for me!

Don't you have a hack saw and lath?

roger

21 July 2007, 08:22

DannyH

I just got a 6.5 f34 today and it is a beauty. It also came in different packaging than the one I got a couple of months ago. Everything is crisp and clean on the machining.And I was happy with the last ones
Dan

21 July 2007, 08:30

vapodog

quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Don't you have a hack saw and lath? roger

Roger....yes I do....but recontouring isn't one of my things!

21 July 2007, 19:09

22WRF

quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Don't you have a hack saw and lath? roger

Roger....yes I do....but recontouring isn't one of my things!

All they really need is a little bit of contouring right at the transision point to make them look a lot better and also to take a few ounces off. They don't need to be recontoured the whole way. I would think any guy that is pretty talented with a lathe, such as yourself Vapodod, could very easily do what needs done to make them look real nice.

21 July 2007, 19:19

Jim Kobe

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
i made a mistake..

green mountain may very well make them for midway...

jeffe

A bit disconserting, but Jeffe...could you please try to use your upper case a bit where it's needed! hammering

22 July 2007, 10:44

STINGER

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Kobe:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
i made a mistake..

green mountain may very well make them for midway...

jeffe

Thank you Mr. Kobe. You have my undying appreciation.

See how he likes it when somebody rides his a$$ about the proper use of cases.

And he's not even handicapped.

Thanx, Bill

A bit disconserting, but Jeffe...could you please try to use your upper case a bit where it's needed!

PLEASE EXCUSE CAPS, HANDICAPPED TYPIST.

"THE" THREAD KILLER

IT'S OK......I'VE STARTED UP MY MEDS AGAIN. THEY SHOULD TAKE EFFECT IN ABOUT A WEEK. (STACI-2006)

HAPPY TRAILS

HANDLOADS ARE LIKE UNDERWEAR....BE CAREFUL WHO YOU SWAP WITH.

BILL

23 July 2007, 04:30

TSJ

quote:
green mountain never SOLD, to a person, an AB barrel... even if they made them all, it's a midway owned comapny name and product...

Funny,
I walked in, went to a huge rack of barrels, over-runs,trials ect ect. Pulled out several A&B boxes with barrels and said, I'll take these.

23 July 2007, 17:56

Thomas Jones

My 35 Whelen was put together with a A&B barrel. It shoots very well. Around an inch at 100.
My smith is of the opinion that with modern C&C macinery and decent steel to start with a trained monkey can build a good barrel these days.
That being said , he prefers a Douglas just beacuse of a good relationship with them.
I wish A&B made barrels in 9.3X62.
MK 10 actions are still cheap and easy to find around here.
I know of one I can get (its a daily) for about 300.00. In 300 win mag.
I am thinking of making a 358 Norma on it or a 416 taylor.
If I go taylor I,ll probably use an A&B.
But An ER shaw pre threded and chamberd barrel is only 150.00.
If I were going with somthing like a .257 Roberts I might go a differnt rout.
But more beacuse of weight than acuracy...tj3006

23 July 2007, 20:17

bartsche

My home brewed .358 X .404 IMP is a rechambered new 35 Wehlen A&B barrel. It is a Mod. 98 single shot. It was a real surprise to find out just how accurate tha barrel was. It has put 250gr. bullets out at over 3100 fps.accurately. Still have the reamer if there is some interest.

roger