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M95 Steyr barrel thead and pitch?
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Anyone have the thread & pitch dimensions for the 8x56-R M-95 Steyr-Mannlicher handy at their fingertips? If so, I'd sure appreciate knowing what it is. TIA.


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Posts: 9685 | Location: Cave Creek 85331, USA | Registered: 17 August 2001Reply With Quote
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you probaly find someone whom has it if you go to the www.gunboard.com site. Its a real good site. van
 
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The barrel pitch and thread is the same as a greek mannlicher schoenauer: 12 V per inch;
major dia. 1.06", minor dia. .720".

For what it's worth these measurements are the same for the 1895 Dutch Mannlicher.

Are you going to rebarrel in a different caliber ?
 
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Correction: the .720" measurement is the length of the shank.
Minor diam. is approx .965"

Your mileage may vary, there seems to be some variation on some of
my greek m-s's that I have.

Hope this gives you a place to start.
 
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Thanks, Malpai-

I could, of course, have measured the old barrel once I had it off, but I wanted to know in advance just in case some really weird metric thread is required. Always nice to know going in what you're likely to find.

Yes, I plan to re-barrel to .33 Winchester, just for grins. As I already have RCBS case-forming dies and a .33 Win reamer anyway, thought I might as well give it a go.

If I can't make it feed, I'll just take the barrel off, set it back, and re-thread for a Siamese Mauser. I KNOW I can make that feed.

Thanks again...

AC


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Alberta in years gone I owned a .30-40 Steyr 95 by Sedgely, stocked by them too, no magazine alterations required. This suggests that a .35WCF and/or .405WCF might work too. Also had Ward Koozer rebore an 8x50 to .348WCF, I sold it on before trying to alter the magazine - but I think it could have been done. All these are more gun than a .33 of course but the .33 is nontheless a neat cartridge.
 
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If that barrel shoots well as is why bother? Brass and bullets are readily available now and it is slightly superior to the .33 Win.




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If that barrel shoots well as is why bother? .



Because I can. And want to.

I realize that brass and bullets are currently available, but the operative word there is "currently". I suspect that if push ever came to shove, it would be easier to find .338" bullets than .330" ones.

(Of course I also already have a .330" bullet mould, so I could always have SOMETHING to shoot out of the current barrel as it is. But then, I have 4 different .338" bullet moulds, so there's still an advantage to the .338" bore diameter.)

But, I LIKE the .33 Winchester. Used to have an 1886 Winnie LW short rifle w/shotgun butt, and loved it as a handy, non-abusive, completely adequate woods gun. So this is partly practicality, partly nostalgia.

Am also building the rifle as a "switch-barrel" gun, so it's no big deal to go back and forth as long as I don't have to screw the magazine up to get it done and working as a repeater. And, as I said before, If it turned out I'd have to do that, I'd just yank the .338" barrel off, use it on something else, and put the 8x56-R barrel back on the M95.


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Alberta in years gone I owned a .30-40 Steyr 95 by Sedgely, stocked by them too, no magazine alterations required. This suggests that a .35WCF and/or .405WCF might work too. Also had Ward Koozer rebore an 8x50 to .348WCF, I sold it on before trying to alter the magazine - but I think it could have been done. All these are more gun than a .33 of course but the .33 is nontheless a neat cartridge.



Vigillinius-

Now that Sedgeley sounds like my kind of gun!

If I had a Krag reamer sitting around, I'd also make a Krag barrel for my M95....even a .25 Krag would do, but I actually prefer the plain vanilla .30 Krag like yours was. Don't think I've been without a .30 Krag rifle of some sort any time in the last 50 years or so. (My current one is a Ruger #3.)

I've got a dozen or so unchambered, unthreaded, new .30 barrels that aren't dedicated to anything else at the moment, so if I find a good, used, Krag reamer CHEAP one day at a gun show or some such, I'll pick it up and do that.

Glad to see someone else here that remembers Ward Koozer. I have visited him in both Douglas, AZ and Walterville, OR and had him re-bore some barrels for me. As you may recall, he was confined to a wheelchair even when he was actively making barrels. He made or modified all his own boring/rifling equipment, so that he could work from his chair. Last I heard he had married a woman from Sonora, Mexico and moved there. I never met her, but everyone said she treated him like a Prince.

Best wishes,

AC


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Alb, the Sedgely Steyr looked exactly like a Sedgley Springfield until you did a doubletake at the funny action in the middle of it. I have subsequently seen one other at a PA gun show last year. The 8x50R charger works with .30-40 even tho the catridges are a little loose in it. You can put a pin across the bottom of the magazine to keep from losing the chargers, the one in PA was scoped and the ammo was pressed into the lips of the charge under the scope. It also ought to be possible to hinge the bottom of the magazine fairly easily. Occasionally one sees a high grade Austrian sporter on the 95 action but they are quite few and far between.
 
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Should add that in addition to the .348 Steyr Koozer did other jobs for me, a HiWall that I still have to .44 S&W Magnum in the early 50s, it actually may have been the very first rifle made in that calibre. And an Austrian 8x50R double rifle to .45-70, don't remember the maker, had coilspring loaded strikers instead of flatsprings. And perhaps some others too.
 
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Alb, the Sedgely Steyr looked exactly like a Sedgley Springfield until you did a doubletake at the funny action in the middle of it. I have subsequently seen one other at a PA gun show last year. The 8x50R charger works with .30-40 even tho the catridges are a little loose in it. You can put a pin across the bottom of the magazine to keep from losing the chargers, the one in PA was scoped and the ammo was pressed into the lips of the charge under the scope. It also ought to be possible to hinge the bottom of the magazine fairly easily. Occasionally one sees a high grade Austrian sporter on the 95 action but they are quite few and far between.


That last part is really interesting. Will have to keep my eyes open to see if there are any around this neck of the woods. I should have realized they would be bound to turn out some sporters on that action, but the thought never entered my head. Thanks, "V"...

(Also thanks for the suggestion about the pin to keep from losing the charger clips. I can see in my mind's eye exactly how that would work...)


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