Idared,
Shilen only makes Select Match barrels in stainless. You should contact Doug Shilen about your problem, they will make it right if it's their fault.
Stepchild

G&%$#@dammit Blue, that really pissed me off.

I would appreciate an opinion about these barrels regarding accuracy and quality. They seem reasonably priced, prechambered in many calibres and threaded for most actions. I am thinking about the stainless heavy weight. Thanks.

I've never owned one, but have read a few posts from people that say they have decent accuracy followed by a lot of copper fouling. I looked at thier web site a few times and it seems to me if your planning on them doing the re-barrel, By the time you're finished with labor and parts you could get a "premium" for just a few bucks more, Pac-Nor, Shilen, etc.



Terry

blue,

I think you got it the other way around re Kobe and Shaw barrels. As far as I know, he considers them to be the best tent stakes in the world.

That aside, I had them rebarrel a Rem 700 in 222 a copuple years back. It shoots great and I have no problem with excessive fouling. I'm satisfied by it. I'm sure you'll get plenty of input on these barrels one way or the other.Maybe we'll hear from Jim Kobe.

As a smith I can not imagine wanting a one size fits all threading job on any custom rifle.

The point of a custom rifle other then getting exactly what you want is to get a superior product for your money then can be offered by the big gun makers.

This basically boils down to machining. It is a simple tast to take a Rem 700 that shoots 1 moa, give it a total truing and accurizing job, bed it to a quality stock and come out with a sub 1/2 moa rifle using factory barrel and chamber. Often if the barrel is rechambered with a accuracy designed chamber, it will often play with the 1/4 moa group size.

As for Shaw barrels, I have heard both good and bad, just like nearly every other middle of teh road priced barrels.

I would agree that the machining is 80% of a rifles accuracy potential. I have fitted $80 A&B barrels that shoot well under 1/2 moa so I know the cheaper barrel can shoot. How they foul is another topic all together.

If you get a Shaw barrel, have it machined and fitted by an accuracy minded smith and it will shoot well for you.

Good Shooting!!!

50

Why not save an extra month or so and go for the premium bbl.

Doug

IF.... you can ever get them to ship you a barrel, they make great tent stakes.

Even A & B are better barrels, and you can at least get them in a few days.

The physical cost of installing a barrel is the same no matter which brand of barrel you choose. It is also a fact that a good barrel is a good barrel, no matter who makes it. It's pretty hard to throw rocks at even a factory production rifle barrel that turns out fine accuracy on a regular basis.

I don't have any experience with E.R. Shaw barrels at all, but I do know that this brand is seldom mentioned as being a top choice with the target shooting community, or with the builders of fine custom hunting rifles. For example, lots of target shooters (and hunters) have had fine luck with Hart barrels over the years, and some of the best custom hunting (and target) rifles ever created have been fitted with Kreiger barrels.

I don't think it's wise to make price an issue when you choose a barrel maker.

AD

i have had three Shaw barrels (25.06 heavy, .257 ackley, and .338 Magnum)installed on 98 mauser actions and have had very good luck with all of them. I had them install them and headspace them. sorry to you other guys that didnt like them, but I highly recommended them.

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Originally posted by mikey8:
i have had three Shaw barrels (25.06 heavy, .257 ackley, and .338 Magnum)installed on 98 mauser actions and have had very good luck with all of them. I had them install them and headspace them. sorry to you other guys that didnt like them, but I highly recommended them.

Yeah, and you are also answering a year old post???

I used shaw until I got one that will not shoot and shaw said too bad went back to kreiger ots not if you will get one that sucks its witch one will suck. if 2.5 moa is ok with you use em

I've had them install two barrels on VZ24 actions; one 338/06 and one 6mm Rem. Both are very accurate and copper fouling "went away" after a slightly longer than normal break-in period. For the money I'm very happy with what I got but be preparred for a LONG wait.

ER Shaw barrel discussions surface about every 6 months. There likely should be a standing post for every new question about them. And that's not to say the questions aren't legitimate....they are.

The appeal of Shaw barrels......and typically the reason inquiries are made to the forum........is their price. The price-performer is having Shaw supply and install the barrel. This can be accomplished for the bargain sum of $195....complete.

These are hunter-grade barrels. They are not as finely finished inside or out as custom premium barrels. My experience is they are as good as a good factory barrel.....in fact, Shaw supplies barrels to the trade.

In my experience there are two limiting factors to Shaw barrels. Their available contours for anything above .308 are a bit stout for my tastes.......and they sometimes have lengthy delivery turnaround. The latter may have improved with their recent equipment upgrades. A friend just got his newly barreled action returned in 5 weeks. That's an improvement on a magnitude of about 10 from some of the barrels I've had installed in the past.

GV

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I think you got it the other way around re Kobe and Shaw barrels. As far as I know, he considers them to be the best tent stakes in the world.

I know the man personally and can tell you that he's a fine smith, a fine gentleman, and a man of very high standards. His work is superb.

While it's true he has no good words for E R Shaw, it wouldn't bother me to install a shaw barrel on any gun I was building. I've used several and have no complaints........yet

Me being an old cowboy, and leaning a lot of things in life from rasing horses.........it takes the same to feed a good horse than it does to feed a bad horse and in some cases a good horse is an easy keeper...............so get a good barrel and be done with it. Shilen, Pac-Nor, Hart or whatever and leave the cheap ones alone, unless you can slug one and jack it off and get it right, if you can't be prepaired to do a lot so cleaning.

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Originally posted by Gringo Cazador:
Me being an old cowboy, and leaning a lot of things in life from rasing horses.........it takes the same to feed a good horse than it does to feed a bad horse and in some cases a good horse is an easy keeper...............so get a good barrel and be done with it. Shilen, Pac-Nor, Hart or whatever and leave the cheap ones alone, unless you can slug one and jack it off and get it right, if you can't be prepaired to do a lot so cleaning.

Well, I'm no cowboy. Been on a horse exactly twice. Horse bit me both times and I haven't had the desire or need to make another attempt. I do wear cowboy boots.

And I have used several manufacturers barrels. The economy in Shaw barrels is having Shaw install them. At $135 a barrel, they aren't that much cheaper than others. At $195 installed on your action.....they are definitely cheaper. And they work. About 80% of the hunting fraternity wants a gun that they can hit a paper plate with at 300 yards. About half of that 80% are truly capable of it. A Shaw barrel will deliver way beyond their wildest wishes.

More and more people are finally telling their stories of satisfaction with Shaw. There is a place in the market for them, because they deliver exactly what they are designed for. And they are price-performers. Not a thing wrong with that premise.

GV

This may be totally irrelevant or may speak volumes, you decide. I bought a Shaw slug barrel, with sights, for my Benelli M1. Took it to the range yesterday to sight it in. It shot very nice 1 1/2 inch groups at 50 yds with 3 different slugs. No problem? Well, yeah. All the groups were 12+ inches low (AT 50 YDS!), even with the sights adjusted to max elevation. I felt like I was shooting "instinctive" for you bowhunters out there....

Those sites could not possibly have both been for this barrel.........

MKane160