Nothing Fancy,

Would just like to have my 1909 Argentine ground down a bit. Get rid of the lettering if that is safe to do. Move the serial number down below the stock line, and grind the clip charging hump off.

thanks,

LD

Get hold of Mark Stratton.
He's does awesome work.

Yea LD, Mark is the man. Get him to put you a set of those custom bases on while it's over there.

Terry

BEFORE


AFTER

Hey TC1,

I talked to Customstox yesterday and he told me that his going to do the stockwork. I knew if you could ware him down he would do the work.

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Originally posted by Mark_Stratton:
Hey TC1,

I talked to Customstox yesterday and he told me that his going to do the stockwork. I knew if you could ware him down he would do the work.

HA! I hate to be pest, but......

Terry

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought somebody said you cannot remove serial numbers on an action. I wonder if that includes putting them in a different place on the same action?

They have to come off when you surface grind it. That's just part of it. Now if they have to go back in the exact same spot, I'm not sure. I think the only thing is you can't give it a different # Like if you were unlucky enough to get serial #666 you have to have it blessed because you couldn't change the #

Terry

Hey Terry,

Is that Blackburn bottom metal?

I flew an F-16, #666 for a few years. In the USAF they only make the last three numbers big, so my plane was 81-666 (The 666th airplane acquired in 1981).

LD

22WRF,

Here's the thing about serial numbers. First I stamp the serial number in the cocking piece channel in the receiver. I have an engraving machine and I engrave the serial number on the bottom of the receiver. When I surface grind the receiver, I try not to completely remover the serial number, I can then go in and touch it up. But sometimes the grinding does remove the number and I reengrave it.

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Hey Terry,

Is that Blackburn bottom metal?

I flew an F-16, #666 for a few years. In the USAF they only make the last three numbers big, so my plane was 81-666 (The 666th airplane acquired in 1981).

LD

Yea it's a blackburn.

Terry

The way the serial number thing was explained to me by the ATF agent in Spokane at the time was...it can be removed if placed somewhere else on the reciever, not back in it's original position. The way the numbers are raised with chemicals, they are still able to pull the original number after it has been ground off as long as a bunch of other stamping etc. has not gone on over it. Another thing he pointed out is the need to have a visible serial number without removing from the stock (like Marks placement on the rear tang) if one is trying to take the gun out of the U.S. to hunt. Don't know, but the way they check them thru now that might be a requirement for travel in the states also.
Jim

Thanks Terry,

I think I'll go that route with a 30-06 box so I can get 4 down with the 9,3x62.

Will save my G.33/40 for the 7x57 or 6.5x55.

LD

Hey LD I may have one F/S soon. It's dropbox 30-06 length. I just need to make some hard decisions about the project that I've been putting off. I'll let you know before I list it if that's what I decide to do.

Terry

Mark, I sent you a PM. I think I did anyway. I am new here and haven't quite got the hang of all the functions yet.

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It's dropbox 30-06 length

Where can we get a dropbox for a standard length action? I saw one in a 6.5X54 MS caliber that held 8 rounds al together. Odd little rifle.

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:

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It's dropbox 30-06 length

Where can we get a dropbox for a standard length action? I saw one in a 6.5X54 MS caliber that held 8 rounds al together. Odd little rifle.

Ted Blackburn 435-623-2074

$325.00 retail

Terry

What caliber is that rifle chambered for, and how many does it hold? I posted a few months ago about a rifle chambered in 6.5 Mannlicher S that held, I think, 8 rounds in a drop bos. Seemed interesting to me, but I have never needed that many rounds. I am just wondering about this magazine and its capabilities?

Thanks Terry,

If you sell it, I'll buy it. I can then use the 1909 bottom metal with my G.33/40 when that gets made into a 7x57 or 6,5x55.

I know what you mean about hard decisions. Being poor has sharpened my thinking process. When the clinic starts making money and/or I'm making decent money deployed overseas I'll get soft and sloppy with the check book again.
The important thing is I am happy to eat peanut butter and jelly and drive real beaters so I can continue to "invest" in this obsession .

lawndart

TC1 -- that looks very nice. Are those 2 done by the same person with the custom scope mounts? Also how much is it? Do you send the action to them, or do they just sell them?

Thanks for any help.

I have decided to take the plunge and customize my 1909 Arg. To date, my projects were simple rebarrel and restock jobs. Now I find myself with all sorts of choices to make. It really is a pleasant sort of agony.
TC1 what safety did you decide on? Any chance you could provide another photo of the custom bases Mark made you. Maybe a top veiw from an oblique angle.

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Originally posted by John358:
I have decided to take the plunge and customize my 1909 Arg. To date, my projects were simple rebarrel and restock jobs. Now I find myself with all sorts of choices to make. It really is a pleasant sort of agony.
TC1 what safety did you decide on? Any chance you could provide another photo of the custom bases Mark made you. Maybe a top veiw from an oblique angle.

The safety on this one is a Gentry Model. David Gentry put it on and it's works ok, but if I had it to do over again I would go with a Dakota model. The Gentry funtions fine, but the real gunsmiths that post on this board say it's a pain in the butt to install and IMO the Dakota is a nicer unit.

Here are a couple more pics of the Micheal Scherz bases. Mike does excellent work, just don't be in a hurry. It took a year to get this set done

Oooop's, just read your post again. Here are the ones Mark Stratton did. I really like these better, plus Mark runs his shop like a business and not a hobby. He's easy to get a hold of, answers silly questions and the work was done when promissed. If I ever get another one done Mark will be the man.
I don't have many pics of these but here is another one.

Terry

TC1

Really nice stuff!!!!

Terry,

Who did the octagonal barrel?


Thanks, Rob

TC1 -- that looks very nice. Are those 2 done by the same person with the custom scope mounts? Also how much is it? Do you send the action to them, or do they just sell them?

Thanks for any help.

Seth,
They have to be custom fitted. They were done by two different smith's. The price varies a lot from smith to smith.
Give Mark Stratton a shout. It's not really my place to be quoting prices


Rob,
Mark Stratton did the whole thing.


Terry

TC1, those are both very nice. Your Argi is pretty much what I had in mind. It looks like you used NECG sights. I like them but have been leaning toward the Dakota rear sight base. It seems somewhat more compact than the NECG base. But, I could sight across either one of them without predjudice. I will need to see what my smith recommends.
I just cant decide on a caliber. At first I wanted a 6.5X55 SM or 7X57 but I plan on getting a Dakota model 10 in 7X57 and I think 6.5X55 should go into a smaller package IMO. So, I am looking at 30-06, 35 Whelen or 9.3X62. I dont want to alter the bolt face. I am a medium bore fan and already have three differint 35 calibers and two 375's. Like I said it really is a pleasant sort of a dilemma to be in.
TC1 thanks for sharing your photos and your experience you learned from your projects. I am sure I am not the only one learning alot from this thread.

Terry,

This is OT, but could you post a bigger picture of your avatar?

Thanks,

LD

Any photos of the finished 1909?

TC1--

With the drop box from Blackburn, how many 9.3X62 rounds does this rifle now hold. I love the looks of the gun...Huh, I wonder if this could be modified to fit a 1903 Springfield?

I'm glad to hear that you all like what I do, but this is like any other business. Sometime you have small pit falls and things don't always come out on time. The barreled action I'm doing right now is an example, the .280 chambering reamer was dull so I had to order another and that might cost us a few days. I'm able to do other things while I wait for the new reamer so it's not a complete waist of time. I don't complete a project until it meets my satisfaction. I don't want to rush to another project just because of the sdhedule. Sometime I run a little behind.

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Terry,

This is OT, but could you post a bigger picture of your avatar?

Thanks,

LD

Hey LD, Here ya go


John, I've really had a lot of bad luck with this rifle. I bought one stock for it that came in with a very small patch. I decided to fix it only to find a soft spot about the size of a golf ball in the butt area. Needles to say that stock was a total loss. Then I built a pattern and the moderater of this forum Jeffeosso cut me a "try" pattern for it. When I got it back I didn't like what I came up with (my fault) There is a lot of things that can go wrong when designing you own, grip geometry etc, so I'm really no further along than what you see in the pics. I've about decided to use a standard triggerguard/box and put it in a cheap stock and go have some fun with it.

Here is a picture of the 1st stock.


333okh, the magazine holds six down. I have no idea about working with an 03. sorry

Mark, I didn't mean to make it sound like nothing ever goes wrong, I'm sure it does. Mine just went sooo smooth and I was very impressed with the work

Terry

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333okh, the magazine holds six down. I have no idea about working with an 03. sorry

6 down is nice. I like the little 6.s MS that had 8 down. Odd looking little rifle, and I have never needed 8 rounds, but looked like a miniature Dangerous Game Rifle.

I will continue my look for bottom meta for the 03 Sprng, but it looks like Jim Dubell did a fabulous job on the one he made on the 03 thread.

Gentlemen-

You action look great. Good ideas and style.

Thanks Terry,

That picture reminds me of all the tricks I have had to do to get a little coochie in my life.

LD

HA! If it was only that easy

Petey was a cool dog

Terry

Any more picture for food for thought?

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HA! If it was only that easy

Petey was a cool dog

Terry

Oops,
I forgot to mention the money part.
LD