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Here is a Mosin-Nagant I just finished; 500 S&W Hog rifle; Boyds stock, FN bolt handle moved back; one piece Leupld base.
Timney trigger. Makes them almost like a real rifle, and another good thing is they can't be blown up, for those careless hand loaders.
I like Mosins and have built all manner of cartridges on them from 375 Flanged to 9.3x62, to various .500 calibers.
 
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NICE JOB! Whole different rifle!

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Finally, a topic I can agree with! Big Grin




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That looks clever, moving the handle back. Did you then construct a bridge in front of it Smiler?

Thinking of the strength and safety, would that oversized striker knob divert gasses from the shooter's face in the event of them getting that far?
 
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I weld on a bridge across the clip guides and the rear screw of the Leupold one piece bases are screwed into it.
The cocking piece which is also the safety knob, is designed to block any gas that gets back that far. Of course if you use a Timney trigger, you get the thumb safety so don't have to use the awkward cocking piece one.
Don't worry Z, the Mosin will take loads that will turn any Mauser into scrap steel. Glad you liked the Topic.
 
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Somebody must like it.


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I like it, mostly because it’s different. Your idea of moving the bolt back and welding a bridge really changes the adaptability of these actions. How hard are they to modify the feeding of other cartridges… maybe the 30-30 Win?


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Easy, but the problem with a 30-30 is, the small rim; but I can bush the bolt face; that is how I get the 9.3x62 in them, and how Bannerman's converted them to 30-06. Don't shoot one of those; they just extended the chamber and the base is way too big.
 
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As the owner of the world's coolest Mosin in 9,3x62 , I can attest to their incredible CDI factor (Chicks Dig It).

Here is mine in a Walnut stock chambered in 9,3x62 with a McGowen bbl that only shot ~1 3/8 (IIRC) then I subjected it to barrel whacking and voila.



100 yard group



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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike, I love your Mosin, love the caliber and love what Tom and you have done to it. Plus… it shoots!


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The Mosin was, and is, derided by, everyone, due to some of its design features which are seen to make it awkward to use. Like the central mounted bolt handle, making it impossible to top mount a scope in the typical manner (The PE Sniper has a mount on the ring only and the PEM and PU have side mounts), and the single stack mag makes it hard to carry from underneath. Safety is hard to engage.
But there are redeeming features too; strength; the case is well supported with only .020 of case unsupported, half a turn, where the extractor rotates. Floating bolt head. Lugs sit side to side, not top and bottom like other bolt actions, making the left side literally supported by 4 solid inches of steel.
Magazine interruptor; clever design feature that makes feeding very smooth; it cuts off rounds in the mag so they don't push up during feeding. Rigid receiver; short tang, narrow bottom slot. Full guide rib making it smoother than you might think. Cock on opening.
By welding on the bolt handle to the rear, that makes it seem more normal.
 
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Not mine unfortunately, but you can't tell me this is not a good looking rifle...




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Great looking Mosin


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Roger, that is probably one of the nicest Mosin’s I’ve ever seen. Do you know any of the details about it?


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Sorry no, just a pic I found online years ago...it prompted me to make a nice stock for my own Mosin...

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That's just about perfect. I would spend some time streamlining that heavy TG. The bow could be thinned and a nice pin fashioned to replace that rivet at the front of the mag.

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Not mine unfortunately, but you can't tell me this is not a good looking rifle...




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Nice piece. Unfortunately as long as you use the original mag, trying to slim the TG doesn't help it.
 
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Originally posted by rcraig:
Somebody must like it.


rcraig,

Your comments are not appropriate!

In my area you would be considered an ASS HOLE!

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Originally posted by rcraig:
Somebody must like it.


rcraig,

Your comments are not appropriate!

In my area you would be considered an ASS HOLE!

Hip


So what are you, the self appointed Chief of the Appropriate Police?

GFY and have a nice day.


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Everyone is allowed their opinion...

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I don't know when I first read the title.

I read Mosins are Awful.

Tom does good work with them.
 
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Here are some I did a few years ago; The stock pattern I made, and loaned it to a former AR member. I also gave him a duplicator. He went crazy and threw them into the fire. True story.
I do with I still had that pattern....
 
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I don't know when I first read the title.

I read Mosins are Awful.

Tom does good work with them.


Yes he does.


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dpcc:

Really nice one. I was thinking about converting one too, but here with that all CIP regulations, you know...

I would like to ask you:

How does it feed? Did you modified magazine in any way? What is the barrel length on one you posted here?

Thank you
Jiri
 
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On the 500 S&W; 22 inch. Yes, major mag modifications are always needed; basically you leave the rim catcher at the back and chop out everything else. And mill out the receiver.
The system is made specifically for the 7.62x54. But the magazine interruptor does help in feeding.
So, CIP won't let you butcher up Mosins?
 
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So, CIP won't let you butcher up Mosins?

Licensed gunsmith must do that. Until chamber is made, barrel blank is just barrel blank. When chamber is cut, it must me registered at police department for guns etc. After rifle is complete, it must be proofed in CIP proof house.

All together: For something as cheap as Mosin, it is expensive and complicated way to do that.

And to be licensed gunsmith, I believe I need to have some gunsmith school. I have to check that. Otherwise, I have access and experience with lathe turning, CNC milling, TIG welding etc.


BTW I have to check if silencers are available for .500 S&W here ;-)

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The United States closely examined and considered the Mosin Nagant in their 1892 Trials. The United States was one of the first countries to examine and handle as the Model 1891 was a closely guarded state secret. When the US completed the trials, they were prohibited from publishing details of the 1891 due to the secrecy.

A very nice rifle and extremely well made.

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Wow, that is a beautiful 91; a Tula, and the workmanship then was top notch.
Jiri; movce here; anything before 1899 is the same as a piece pf scrap iron,, and barrels and chambers, are always the same as tent stakes.
Register with police? NO.
 
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We have that limit for 1890. But our law says there are main parts of firearms:

barrel
insert barrel (like for shotguns to small caliber etc.)
frame
receiver
revolver cylinder

All those must be registered. I am not sure right now if new barrel for pre 1890 must be registered too.
 
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We don't have to register anything in my state; just pass the background check and fill out the 4473 for anything made after 1898.
The receiver is the firearm; everything else is just steel.
Muzzle loaders are not firearms; treated like brooms.
But registering barrels and cylinders is crazy.
 
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I have a single shot 45-70 that dpcd did several years ago, using the stock pattern pictured. It is a great rifle and brings a lot of attention at the local range. I have several single shot 45-70's and this is one of my favorites.
 
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