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Ok fellows, what we got here is an "A-BOLT II Stalker in a black composite stock", what we need to do is remove the barreled action and trigger assembly from the stock so a reduced trigger spring can be installed. Now for the problem, I can't get the barreled action out of the stock!!! I have removed the trigger guard, magazine box assembly and all screws that hold the action in place. The barreled action will rock up and down from action to barrel, pivoting on the recoil lug, and will rock side to side and is quite loose. Obviously there seems to be no more screws holding the action in the stock. But it simply won't come out of the stock. It seems to be held by the Recoil lug somehow. I have applied as much pressure as I dare to pull it out by the barrel without bending the barrel. I even tried wedging under the action base and stock from inside the magazine well in the stock and rocking the barreled action to see if whatever was holding it would let go. No luck on that endeavor either!!! Ok so I ask, what is it I'm missing here, is there a trick to removing an A-Bolt action from it's stock? And, is this not ordinary and just a freak thing? To my knowledge this is a new rifle and has never been out of the stock. | ||
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There's no trick but the A-Bolts recoil lugs are often bedded tight! I don't know what to tell you besides pulling a little harder--try and pull straight up. | |||
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Try sticking the rifle in the freezer for a few hours and see if you can “tap†it loose. DON’T try to “wedge†or “pry†it out. The other option is an action-pulling tool that works sort of like a body shop dent remover. It has a mandrel that fits in the receiver and a sliding weight that pops the barreled receiver out. Brownells sells them. | |||
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I think the Browning's front guard screw is 1/4 -20(i'm basing this guess on the fact that the Browning BBR is 1/4-20). Get a 1/4-20 bolt about 2" long and screw it tightly into the front guard screw hole. Then rap it firmly with a hammer. The barreled action should come out. If not, hit it again. If It Doesn't Feed, It's Junk. | |||
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Try this, open the floor plate and take a brass punch and gently tap on the bottom of the reciever. Alternating front and rear. This is how I have to do it to get my Lott apart as it is very tightly bedded, and this is GOOOOD. Hog Killer IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Try removing the bolt, holding the rifle by the barrel with the bottom of the stock up. Swing the gun like you do a hammer but softly and hit the bottom of the stock on a bed, chair, carpeted floor, ect. The action will slip out of the stock. Easier to do than describe. I keep one hand on the barrel and the other on the forend pulling it off. That helps the action come out straight. --------------- Gary | |||
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Your recoil lug could be rusted in, Try to squirt in some liquid wrench and then tap it out with the stock inverted. Fred M. zermel@shaw.ca | |||
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yuppin yimminie... as Ole said..... Hold the stock with one hand and take a rubber mallet and tap on the end of the barrel some.... Contender, the barrel will be a lot easier on the finish of the rubber mallet than it will be on the wife's furniture..... cheers seafire | |||
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Y'all are scaring the crap out of me now! The spring kit came today, and it looks like I'm going to do the deed soon. I don't relish using the old boy for a sledgehammer but the technique has merit. I got someone constructing an action puller like Rick suggested we'll try it first! Also I like the Idea of using a longer screw and tapping on it like Mauser suggested. Lot's of good suggestions and I may end up trying them all The thing is, this is a new Stainless Steel Browning A Bolt that’s never been out of the stock. Funny thing is when I remove the action screws you can rock the action all around. You would think if it was bedded where the recoil lug was, and with it already being loose, it would simply slip out. I'm beginning to think this is a Browning thing from the factory to discourage people from disassembling this puppy. But it's going to get disassembled, one way or another! | |||
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Sounds like the bedding could be hosed up. If I had to guess I'd say the recoil lug wasn't machined right and is larger on the bottom than the top so with the tight bedding you've got a mechanical lock. If that's the case, some grinding and rebedding would be in order (assuming you get it appart in one piece). | |||
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WML, PM sent to you. | |||
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Jon A, I have come to the same conclusion as you about this. We are putting together an action puller like Rick suggested. I think a little rapping and tapping with the puller and the thing will work it's way out. There is just no way to get an advantage on the stuck recoil lug without it. Thanks everybody for all the good suggestions, I will let everybody know what little bugger was holding it in. | |||
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Before I would do anything....do as what someone has already said. place the rifle in a freezer for a few hours....the metal will contact (makeing it smaller) and it should come a part. Beating on something just never appealed to me! | |||
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IF you ever ghet it out, let us know what wasa required to do so..... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Ok folks the Timney Trigger Spring kit is installed with a crisp 2 1/2 # pull. It was so simple I'm almost ashamed I made such a big deal over this. But then again, having the right tool for the job was the key. I used an Action Puller which was a simple 5# bodyshop dent puller and a rubber padded mandrel turned down from high tensile grade 8 steel bolt, we wrapped it with the material used to make custom golf club handles, which was like a rubber/vinyl texture. The mandrel was tapped in the center to accept the 5# bodyshop dent puller threading. Here's where it gets embarrassing, I pulled the bolt from the rifle and inserted the mandrel in place of the bolt, rolled the mandrel over and screw the bodyshop dent puller into the mandrel, Told my buddy to hold to the stock, and then I gave it about three little love taps and the whole action came out slick as a whistle. My buddy looked at me like "What the Hell was so hard about that". Ok here is what I found, Browning had indeed glass bedded the recoil lug in. The glass bedding had welled up to the barrel and had formed a seat for the barrel to sit on. The problem was the fit was very tight all the way up as it should be, but some of the bedding had seized to the lower portion of the recoil lug and broke away from the stock and bedding and was still attached to the recoil lug and wouldn't let the recoil lug be extracted. It was acting as a wedge. After I got the action, out I took a pocketknife and scrapped the bedding material stuck to the recoil lug off and the action would slip in and out with no problem. Thanks for all the help fellows, if success turns out simple I guess one shouldn't complain! | |||
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