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I just upgraded my Prototrak software so I can now upload a .CAM file. I got some great engraving software that will engrave most any font I've got on my computer. Here's a few test pictures. I made my own engraving cutter on the surface grinder. It looks like a nail point with the tip barely stoned flat. In the pic with JR ANDERSON-GUNMAKER the cutter broke near the end. Need to get some better tools and maybe a faster spindle. For now I'll just slow the feed rate. Sure beats stamping!!!




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How exactly does that work? You have the software on your computer and somehow you run that software on a CNC Milling machine and the software moves the table, or the software move the cutter, or what?

Pretty nice stuff!
 
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Jim,

Nice looking work.

Most of the supply outfits sell single flute carbide engraving cutters with 90, 75 and 60 degree inc. angle. They do work best when run at 18-20k rpm. Probably a bit higher than your mill will run, but should work with slower speeds. High speed cutters should be about 5k rpm. Cutters should have a 3 degree side angle and 10-15 degree back angle "tip off".

Commercial cutters have a .003 radius on tip and will work as is.


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How exactly does that work? You have the software on your computer and somehow you run that software on a CNC Milling machine and the software moves the table, or the software move the cutter, or what?

Pretty nice stuff!

The program is generated on my desktop computer. I export a .CAM file to a thumb drive. Then I ped-net the file to the usb slot on my Prototrak. The upgraded software on the Pototrak converts the .CAM file to the native .MX2 file that runs the mill.


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Do you have any links to a cutter you would recommend ? "3 degree side angle and 10-15 degree back angle "tip off"
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Here ya go Jim...

1/8" conical point cutter

I don't think you will need to add the tip off on the commercial cutters.

I would recommend the 60 degree cutter if you are going to be engraving caliber on barrels (round) without a 4 axis. You won't notice that the line widens as it cuts deeper in the center of the letter. The 30 degree cutters are probably too fragile.


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That's very nice! We'll need to talk about this soon.

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You've got my # patriot

Roger
Thanks for the link. I'll have to try one of those. I'm thinking about building a bracket to clamp on the quill that would hold my Dumore 1/4" die grinder. This spins 25,000 and I've got a variable speed gizmo I can plug it into. I do like the looks of the engraving font that I cut, but it doesn't hold a candle to the great hand cut lettering you've done for me. thumb


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That's great looking.


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The program is generated on my desktop computer. I export a .CAM file to a thumb drive. Then I ped-net the file to the usb slot on my Prototrak.

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Classic!

Neat looking stuff, what a bunch of options this opens up. I've often wanted a little 'griffin' engraved on a barrel, just cause--and it seems like this would open up that possibility--very cool!
 
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Looks good. Might want to try,
www.bitsbits.com for your engravers.

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how much for that multi-caliber barrel?????
 
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looks good G.M. , Is that the millwrite software? I was contemplating C02 lazer for this batch of Mag Mausers I'm making. I like the versatility of the any font part.
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looks good G.M. , Is that the millwrite software? I was contemplating C02 lazer for this batch of Mag Mausers I'm making. I like the versatility of the any font part.
Timan


Yes it is Millwrite software.
http://members.aol.com/m9685123/index.html
It would probably work on your big mill as well.


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how much for that multi-caliber barrel?????


It's still in top secret prototype stage!


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Are you accepting caliber engraving, or any other work with it yet?
 
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Looks good, lotsa potential James!


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Are you accepting caliber engraving, or any other work with it yet?

I'd be happy to engrave some barrels etc. The only problem is I don't think I can come up with a flat rate price. Dialing in the part was pretty easy on the barrel chunk I tested. Other more time consuming setups will need to be billed by the hour. A simple setup where I could clamp the barrel shank in the vise and quickly dial the top flat should run around $45 + shipping & insurance.

The engraving software could easily be used to make a new set of fonts for a pantograph like the Gorton or New Hermes. Any DXF file that I could import could quickly be scaled up or down and turned into an engraving file.

Another cool feature I want to try is to make a punch by mirroring the engraving.


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