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Which Barrel
05 August 2003, 12:24
Rob1SGWhich Barrel
I trying to decide between a Shilen and a Lothar-Walther is there really any difference in the two that I would notice in a hunting rifle. Which would you choose and why. Thanks
05 August 2003, 12:53
wallywquote:
Originally posted by Rob1SG:
I trying to decide between a Shilen and a Lothar-Walther is there really any difference in the two that I would notice in a hunting rifle. Which would you choose and why. Thanks
I use Shilen because they are good barrels and its a 30 year habit.
Wally
05 August 2003, 13:00
CustomstoxRob, either one will serve you fine in a hunting rifle.
05 August 2003, 14:35
Cold BoreChic about summed it up. Either is fine, but like Wally, I'm comfortable with Shilen tubes, and if my choice was between those two, I'd go with Shilen just out of habit.
06 August 2003, 12:42
<Rusty>Rob,
I chose the Lothar-Walther barrel for my 404 Jeffery project on Ray Atkinson's recommendation.
After spending over an hour on the phone with the manager in the Georgia office, I am even more convinced that I made the right choice. If there are folks who are using the most modern state of the art equipment and techniques, it Lothar. These folks know what they are doing!
My barrel has been shipped to John Ricks who is putting the rifle together. Now if I can get someone to prod Montana along with the PH series, I'll buy the first round for the members!
Rusty
We band of brothers!
06 August 2003, 13:13
<Celt>I like the Lothar Walther tubes and use many of them.
Every one has been a shooter and fouling is all but a memory with them.
Celt
06 August 2003, 15:13
ClarkI have bought a few of each, put them on rifles, and shot them.
The chrome moly steel barrels from Shilen are not hand lapped, but the stainless are to get the copper out.
The chrome moly steel barrels from LW are hand lapped and stress relieved in a way that makes mine shot straight when hot.
So I think LW CM barrels have the edge on Shilen CM barrels for prairie dog hunting, but deer would never know the difference.
06 August 2003, 19:24
EterryI have seen some extremely accurate barrels coming from Lothar-Walther, but for deer hunting either would work fine. However, I tend to shoot better if I know my rifle shoots better groups, so its a toss-up and personal preference.
Good luck and good shooting.
Eterry
07 August 2003, 10:56
larrysI have had a bad one from Shilen, there was rifling missing in the middle of the barrel for about an inch, on a Select Match Grade, so I stay away from them. I have never used a Walther, but I hear they are very good. I use Lilja or Douglas now.
07 August 2003, 11:27
<JOHAN>Well
do you want a cut rifled or button rifled?
Kreiger are damn nice and easy to get for American's, that would be my choice. I guess Shilen, Lilja or any other premium would do. Personaly I had bad experince with a german make, but you can find duds at other places too.
/ JOHAN
07 August 2003, 14:36
<Celt>quote:
Originally posted by Clark:
The chrome moly steel barrels from LW are hand lapped and stress relieved in a way that makes mine shot straight when hot.
I havent used any of the CM barrels from Walther, I have used many of the LW-50 SS barrels.
We shoot alot in the desert here in Texas where the temp on the Kestral reads 105F often.
We do not think about letting the barrels cool very much.We will put 120 rounds down range of .308 in an hour at 105F without cleaning.
with the LW SS barrels we are still making repeted hits on 8" steel at 1K when the barrel is so hot that it would burn you hand if you held onto it for very long.
My partners rifle has over 4000 rounds down it shot like this and still makes one hole in the paper @ 100.
These button rifled barrels must be done right because there is no stress that we can detect. ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif)
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Celt
[ 08-07-2003, 05:41: Message edited by: Celt ]
08 August 2003, 08:24
D HumbargerGo with the Lothar Walter & it won't be your last one.
08 August 2003, 08:34
frank dIs there a site on the web to order the LW barrels? With prices in US $$$$?
08 August 2003, 09:53
<Celt>Call 770-889-9998.
Woody is great about answering any questions.
Celt
08 August 2003, 10:25
frank dThanks Celt- I noticed they don't offer a 3 groove 10" twist in a 30 cal? Do you know of a company that offers one?
08 August 2003, 12:01
<JOHAN>frank d
I think krieger or pac nor does offer what you are looking for
/ JOHAN
09 August 2003, 01:23
Rob1SGI went with the Shilen. I called LW and they said 8-12 weeks for the barrel althought Brownells has them in stock.In reading these posts it looked 50/50. I guess I went the way I did because the Smith liked Shilen and the Brownells recommendation.Maybe my 6mm will get a LW but I don't like supporting countries that don't support us.
09 August 2003, 04:37
Rob1SGI received an E-mail from Mr. W. Woodall in reference to the above post.He stated he and his company are strong supports of the United States.I was glad to hear that.