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16 December 2015, 23:00
jeffeosso
Heat treating. Need some dies annealed
Howdy guys
I no longer have a ht oven and don't really feel like doing a shade tree job. I need 4 total die bodies heated treated to recut them for a different chamber.

Anyone willing to do this?

Thanks
J


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Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
17 December 2015, 08:39
ted thorn
You wouldn't be less expensive to buy a blank?


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17 December 2015, 16:15
jeffeosso
Normally, sure
in this case....
its converting a full set of 470AR to 476 AR -- all the small pieces are done, dies and gages in hand ..


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
18 December 2015, 07:30
D Humbarger
Jeff surely you know some custom knife makers over there in Texas.



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18 December 2015, 07:39
Toomany Tools
Believe it or not but I've used the cleaning cycle on my electric oven to anneal Mauser bolt shrouds. May be worth a try.


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18 December 2015, 08:48
ted thorn
Jeff

I have ovens

Problem......what kind of steel are these made of?


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18 December 2015, 08:53
mete
John, what temperature does that cleaning cycle operate ? 800 F ? I wouldn't call that anneal but a "temper anneal" or "sub-critical anneal".
As long as it can be cut cleanly and easily that's fine .
18 December 2015, 09:00
ssdave
I've also used the cleaning cycle on my oven to take the hardness out of carbon steel parts prior to re-machining them.

I've wrapped the parts in aluminum foil, and put a bit of crumbled charcoal briquette in with the item. The charcoal uses up the oxygen within the wrapping, so that very little scaling occurs.

I've done small parts, threaded bolts for die bodies, and single shot receivers that i want to refinish before re-case coloring. I don't think that this "drawing out" of the metal is a substitute for annealing, most of the better case color guys will anneal it fully and then re-case it. But, it does soften the metal where it is much easier to draw file and polish. I think it would do the same for a set of dies, although I haven't personally done that.

What I usually do for one-of dies is use a grade 8 black steel bolt. I special ordered them from Fastenal to match the die thread, I think they cost me about $2.30 each. I oven anneal the bolt, and then center it in the lathe and drill/bore it concentric, and then use a chamber reamer to cut the die. I've used them without rehardening, they seem to do fine as long as you polish really smooth.
18 December 2015, 16:09
jeffeosso
thank guys.. good advice and considerations .. i sold my oven when i moved from the old house... and several other things, to boot...

this is a one off thing.. well, 2 off .. likely the last thing i use THIS lathe for, as i am planning on selling it and my mill -- oh, i'll replace them, but focused on flying right now

jeffe


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
19 December 2015, 14:18
ted thorn
Steel type?

Without this info I wouldn't anneal anything worth anything


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