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Case separation...303 brit SMLE #4
03 May 2004, 12:58
WyomingSwedeCase separation...303 brit SMLE #4
Went out shooting today...not hot loads or anything but had a case separation on my sons favorite rifle.
It is a sporterized SMLE with a neon green camo stock that only a kid could love. Any suggestions on removing the remaining case from the chamber would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all...
swede
03 May 2004, 13:54
buchsenschmeidsounds like excessive headspace, which is very common in the #4
If You can find a new bolt head which can be traded for the one You have, it should fix you right up They come in 4 lenghths for just this reason. Get a longer one after you measuer how much headspace you have.
+.006" or less is good. More is bad.
Or, You can set the barrel back a thread, and re-headspace to +.003" I have done 4 of them in the past. I also live in Wyo. What town are You In?
I would try a bronze bore brush maybe 35 cal. , something that goes into the case and then with a good swift pull she should come right out if not try a bigger brush but keep it dry don't use any oil .
03 May 2004, 14:08
jeffeossoi've often wondered if one took a large tap, and a long handle, and turned it into the remaining brass, could you pull the case out.. or, perhaps, turn it in, then tap a cleaning rod from the barrel end
jeffe
Broken case extractor... Brass brush from the muzzle...
If what 747 says does not work,try a #4 easyout.It will grab the neck and you can pull the case out.You will have to rig up some sort of extention to reach the chamber.Just push it in and when it stops,turn counterclockwise.Be sure and keep everthing stright.
03 May 2004, 16:03
ToolmakerHere's one of my favorite methods for removing cases that have shorn the rim off.. After removing the bolt, get a can of Cryofreeze, squirt it into the chamber till it gets good and cold, then turn the barrel vertical(barrel up) and give the butt a sharp rap with the palm of your hand - The case should fall right out, and there is no way to harm the rifle. It works more often than not and I keep a can of this stuff in my shooting box for just this reason. You can get it from Radio Shack.
Toolmaker
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Here's one of my favorite methods for removing cases that have shorn the rim off.. After removing the bolt, get a can of Cryofreeze, squirt it into the chamber till it gets good and cold, then turn the barrel vertical(barrel up) and give the butt a sharp rap with the palm of your hand - The case should fall right out, and there is no way to harm the rifle. It works more often than not and I keep a can of this stuff in my shooting box for just this reason. You can get it from Radio Shack.
Toolmaker
Now that is "cool". Really.
03 May 2004, 21:05
ToolmakerOr if ya want a "hot" solution, try cerrosafe. Push a tight fitting patch up from the muzzle until it is just inside the neck of the case, then fill the case with melted cerrosafe. A WORD OF WARNING: don't screw around when using this method, Cerrosafe shrinks upon cooling, then it starts to expand. At 30 min. it is approx the size of the container and at an hour, it is exerting pressure on the container, making it a bitch to get out. Give it a minute or two after it visibly solidifies so you it's completely solid then push it out with cleaning rod. I like these two methods because they're one size, fits all....
Toolmaker
It isn't headspace , the headspace is set by the rim. It is a long chamber. Don't size all the way
back. It shouldn't seperate with new brass. The action flexes enough that you can't just neck size.
Good Luck!
04 May 2004, 01:47
WyomingSwedeThanks to all who replied...appreciate the assist. My kids rifle...he was most upset...This should get it done. Thanks again.
swede
Depending on the chamber and the case, sometimes you can get the case out simply by removing the bolt and then standing the rifle up and rapping the buttstock against a concrete floor or a rock. This works best in rifles in which the chamber is well-polished.
Case head-separation may or may not be a sign of excessive headspace. If you load brass over and over, full-length resizing it every time, eventually any of it will give rise to head separation.
I get progressively more desperate:
I try to catch the case mouth with the end of a cleaning rod.
I try to catch the case mouth with something screwed into the cleaning rod. I hit cleaning rod with a hammer.
Then I try the cleaning brush with bristles too long to change direction in the case. I hit the cleaning rod with a hammer.
Then I put a piece of Kleenex in the neck, and pour Cerosafe into the case. I hit the cleaning rod with a hammer.
Pull the barrel, chisel up the edge of case, twist and pull with needle nose pliers.
Put the barrel in the lathe and go in with drills and boring bars.
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04 May 2004, 08:46
RifleDudeBuy a broken shell extractor, it's an absolute must for any 303 Enfield type rifle. It will happen again sometime, garanteed.
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