I have 3 Mod. 70 CRF that I have sent to a gunsmith to adjust the triggers to 2.5lbs. On the first 2 that I had adjusted, the triggers break nice and clean. The 3rd one has alot of creap. I can pull or squeaze the trigger back a 16th of an inch or better and release it with out firing it. Once I pull up the slack, it breaks O.k. These are hunting rifles and I hope this will not cause any unforseen problems. These triggers all have been stoned and polished. My Question is, should I be worried about the amount of creap in this trigger and try to get used to it or should I send it back to the gunsmith?

Daryl

Yes you should,
Without other details to consiter, it sounds like he botched the job. The depth of engagement has been increased. That should not be. I bet he removed material in the wrong place and compenated somewhere else. M-70 triggers require only spring adjustment and possibly some light polishing. If you do any agressive metal removal things go downhill fast. You end up with non functional safeties and messed up parts relationships. If I messed up someone's trigger I would buy new parts and make it right before I gave the rifle back. He tired to save the mistake and gave it back to you in damaged condition. Not good! Not profesional! Get a new smith and new trigger parts.

I think I would send it back, but first I would check it and see if I could adjust it as he just may have forgotten to adjust it after he honed it....

No matter what he did to the trigger it can be very easily fixed, without much work..M-70 triggers are very simple and very well designed...You can take a good deal of mental off but not at the sear, rather off the sear engagment which is a flat surface..

Don't panic, it can be easily repaired no matter what and you don't need a new trigger.

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Ray Atkinson

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Any of the newer M70s have plenty of sear engagement and it is this that causes the creep of course. It sounds to me like the other two rifles either did not have as much engagement or it was reduced or the angles are such that it is not noticable.
On the rifle that has the creep the engagement has to be reduced. This is done by stoning the sear or installing a sear engagement adjustment screw in the trigger. Both methods have there advocates and present there own challenges. But in the end if you have excessive sear engagement you can't have a nice trigger. Regards, Bill

The 3rd one has alot of creap. I can pull or squeaze the trigger back a 16th of an inch or better and release it with out firing it. Once I pull up the slack, it breaks O.k. These are hunting rifles and I hope this will not cause any unforseen problems.
Hi Daryl.
I think you should leave the 3rd gun the way it is. As i can see some advantages when you are hunting big whitetail with me next month.
The first advantage is that you will be able to watch the deer fall in your scope.
(as I shoot it first).
Second it will allow you more time to get buck fever.
Third is that you get more time to judge the animal and see if he is as big as first thought. NOT LIKE LAST TIME.#!*%*& HIT.
Fourth is you will give your guide a chance at getting the BIG ONE AGAIN. HA HA.
So after great thought about your problem I think it will work out better if you leave it the way it is.

[This message has been edited by ROBERT (edited 10-16-2001).]

Scott, Atkinson, Bill L.,

Thanks for the advice.

Bob,
!@#&^$%*!#% !!!

I know where you live!

Daryl

I agree with Ray on all points. The M-70 trigger is an excellant design.

It sounds like the sear engagement needs to be reduced by removing metal from the top of the sear notch.

Make sure the person doing the work is thoroughly familar with M-70 s, I've had a lot of them brought to the shop screwed up by someone who didn't know what they were doing.

As Scot mentioned, they can screw up the safety as well if they don't understand M-70 trigger systems.

By your description, I'm fairly certain that all you need to do is take the slack out of it and set the trigger if like you say it breaks clean once you pull that slack out...I'm betting he forgot to do that...That would take about 5 minutes including take down and putting it back together....It amounts to turning a screw.

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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