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A long time ago and in a Gun Making Kingdom far across the sea. . . .

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20 May 2008, 04:11
Rusty
A long time ago and in a Gun Making Kingdom far across the sea. . . .
How would you use this tool?


Or one of these?

Thanks to Dustin Mounts for the opportunity to photograph these items.

Gunsmiths, please allow a few guesses before identifying, if you know?


Rusty
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20 May 2008, 04:27
Macifej
Item #1 is an early 19th century maxillary diastema positioning tool used by provincial gunsmiths in the Caqadas del Teide region.

Item #2 are a partial set of calipers commonly used to measure shaping of the distal phalanx after complicated metal machining on period steam powered equipment.

Any other questions for the home audience?? Big Grin
20 May 2008, 04:29
Rusty
Go to your room! Eeker


Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
20 May 2008, 05:46
Macifej
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No takers - I guess no one here is old enough to have the correct answer.
20 May 2008, 05:57
richj
Used for making plaster moldings.
20 May 2008, 06:25
new_guy
I see templates cut (presumably) for the striking of barrels, but I haven't figured out what the other templates are for.


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20 May 2008, 07:25
Timan
The top one is a trigger pull gauge for matchlock rifles.
The bottom ones are early prototype hacksaw blade designs that just never really caught on. rotflmo
Timan



20 May 2008, 07:44
HerrMesser
I am not a gunsmith but the bottom photo sort of looks like a set of barrel taper gauges.

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20 May 2008, 08:44
RogerR
I agree, the bottom one looks like outside radius gauges, likely for use by someone draw filing a cylinder. Likely could be for barrels???
20 May 2008, 18:13
butchloc
not sure about #1 but #2 sure looks like some sort of nipple measuring gauge to me(not necessarily a gunsmithing one) Big Grin dancing hillbilly
20 May 2008, 21:07
Recoil Rob
Might help if there was something in the photos to give an idea of size of tools.
20 May 2008, 21:47
Dago Red
damn, where is Tom Burgess? He's probably actually used these at some point Smiler

the ones on the bottom look like they may have something to do with fitting the barrel to the stock or maybe the sites to the barrel? hmm...

Red


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20 May 2008, 22:15
Rusty
The first picture is of a tool used to check the square of a set of barrels.
Demostrated here by Dustin.

Why the gap on the other side? In case your rifle has a "Dolls Head"!

The other pictures are indeed guages used in the building of shotguns and rifles. Each guage is set up for a particular firearm. Notches on the edge of the gauge gives rib width at specified distances from the breech.




Rusty
We Band of Brothers!
DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member

"I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends."
----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836
"I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841
"for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson
Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.”
21 May 2008, 00:10
dogcat
I knew that.... Wink