Does anyone know how I can get this darn 3-position switch on a Win70 to move? For some reason it is VERY hard to move fromt he fire position to any other. Thanks guys.

This is not an uncommon problem. The safety lever is a cam (sort of) that rotates against an angled surface on the striker to cam it back off the sear. It can be done by someone relatively skilled with stones but, best done by someone (gunsmith) familiar with the the mechanics of the safety/striker mechanism of the M70.

That is definitely not the answer I was hoping for How much time and $$ does this sort of job usually add up to?

Should take about 10 minutes (to fix correctly or really screw it up).

Someone familiar with the correct fitting of the safety can easily fix the issue. If you know how to disassemble the bolt I bet you'll be able to see the cam surface Masterrifleman spoke of .

I guess I could jump on Youtube and learn how

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I guess I could jump on Youtube and learn how

While you're at it, see if Youtube has a supply of replacements in case you screw it up.

Good ole Westpac. One of my threads would not be complete without you buddy

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Good ole Westpac. One of my threads would not be complete without you buddy

Just looking out for you!

It is always welcome and appreciated Westpac

This place sure beats watching TV for entertainment..

Ditto..LMAO

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Originally posted by MRAMSAY10:
Does anyone know how I can get this darn 3-position switch on a Win70 to move? For some reason it is VERY hard to move fromt he fire position to any other. Thanks guys.

Once you get to the Eleventh Grade will they let you take metal shop. I hope you make it before you dick up all of your guns

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Once you get to the Eleventh Grade will they let you take metal shop. I hope you make it before you dick up all of your guns

LMAO!

the firing pin is cocked isnt it?that always makes them alot easier to put on safe.

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Does anyone know how I can get this darn 3-position switch on a Win70 to move? For some reason it is VERY hard to move fromt he fire position to any other. Thanks guys.

Is the effort caused by drag or simply the force to cam the safety infront of the cocking piece? If it is rough then a little polishing or simply working it several hundred times would help it.

The safety as it turns moves the cocking piece to the rear picking up the load from the sear. To do this you must compress the firing pin spring. I've seen M70 where you couldn't see or measure much movement. Others it was quite obvious. To alter this engagement is not a normal do it yourself since you must alter angles or lengths of parts. The safety will work easier as you decrease the spring compression. However if you go too far and just block the cocking piece and you happen to pull the trigger while on safe the sear might not be able to re-engage and would then fire as you take it off safety.


By the way jb signs all his posts that way.

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By the way jb signs all his posts that way.

I have that for the political forum

tsturm,
All my guns are doing just fine thanks All this is a learning experience and I guarantee you it is cheaper than my college degree!!

Ramrod,
I took the bolt apart via online instructions and figured out that it is the "fire" pocket on the safety that is roughed up for some reason. I couldn't figure out how to take the safety out to polish it up a little. Back to a gunsmith

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Originally posted by MRAMSAY10:
tsturm,
All my guns are doing just fine thanks All this is a learning experience and I guarantee you it is cheaper than my college degree!!

Ramrod,
I took the bolt apart via online instructions and figured out that it is the "fire" pocket on the safety that is roughed up for some reason. I couldn't figure out how to take the safety out to polish it up a little. Back to a gunsmith

"Fire pocket" huh? One little bit of advice if I may, avoid using such technical terms such as "fire pocket" at first so as not to intimidate the gunsmith. You'll want to speak to him in plain English until he gets to know you. Good luck!

Don't mess with it, replace it. Call Ed Lapour Gunsithing. He makes replacements that are perfect. 360-479-4966 Bremerton, WA He has a website, too.

Westpac,
You just grow on people

Brice,
How much do you think those things are? Also, how on earth do I get it out to replace it?

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How much do you think those things are? Also, how on earth do I get it out to replace it?

I believe he is talking about replacing the entire shroud.
http://www.edlapourgunsmithing.com/

Ramrod,
Could I simply buy one of those and transfer the firing pin and spring to the new one?

You could, but there is no guarantee that it will be timed correctly either.

Have you removed the firing pin and spring?

If you have removed the fp and spring and the lever is still not working smoothly there may be a burr or some other interference causing the problem. If the lever works smoothly without the fp and spring in place, then you need to take it to a gunsmith with the proper tools and fixtures to fix it correctly.

Once you have the fp and spring removed, the safety lever takes about 4 seconds to remove with the proper size punch. If you do that it should be obvious if there is a burr causing the problem or if you need surgery on the unit.

CAS,
Thanks for the info. I am gathering from everyone that I should leave this one to the pros. I just don't think that old win70 is worth too much as it is. It definitely isnt worth spending too much money fixing.

Send it to me or Westpac and you can relax and know it will be done correctly.

Thanks Jim. The gun isnt worth much so I was wondering how much you think it would run to fix it. Also, where are you located? Not trying to be cheap, just trying to save up for my first "build."

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"Fire pocket" huh? One little bit of advice if I may, avoid using such technical terms such as "fire pocket" at first so as not to intimidate the gunsmith.

Now that was funny!