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Every once in a while I've come across custom rifles in the second hand market that just strike me as being WAY under priced. This is one such rifle. It's a G.33/40 Mauser chambered in 270 Win, stocked by Winston Elrod and metalwork by Tom Burgess. Cabelas has the rifle priced at $4,500 and you could probably get them to knock off a few hundred bucks.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas...sp?hierarchyId=10473

Just take a look at the checkering on the grip; it comes over the top...and under the bottom without a seam.

Fantastic work from two of the masters. Someone here with an appreciation for fine workmanship should own this rifle.



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Nice...

Tell Cabelas the bottom metal screws arent timed animal
 
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Its about 1/2"short in the butt, of becoming mine. Frowner
 
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Its about 1/2"short in the butt, of becoming mine. Frowner


That same 1/2" is the only reason I posted a link to the rifle instead of buying it myself.


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POS . . . bottom metal screws are not timed. Big Grin

Very nice piece, would cost you twice that to build it.


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If I could shoot right-handed I'd seriously consider having my arms and neck shortened to fit that rifle. Magnificent!


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Very nice indeed. The 13 1/2" L.O.P. would even work for me.

Only problem is, I'm stretched pretty thin right now. If you can't eat it I'm not buying Wink

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Its about 1/2"short in the butt, of becoming mine.



even for a gun board, that's a loaded comment. hilbily
 
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You've got a just one small step above common piece of wood with very nice checkering and a slightly short stock in a common caliber. I think it is overpriced myself and I don't care if Jesus worked on it but that's my opinion and if someone loves it, more power to them.


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Nice looking rifle - metalwork wise. Not impressed with that checkering tho.

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I like the rounded treatment to the front of the bottom metal and the blind screws in the swivel studs are a nice touch. But, why so much pitch to that recoil pad?
 
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JMO, but, I think it's gorgeous. What's wrong with a 13 1/2 LOP? All y'all have gorilla arms?

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jawheeler: glad you noticed the pitch...this gun must have been built for someone shaped like a gorilla. Pitch can be a very imporant part of stock fit. Too much pitch and the butt will slide up..ie into your face. Too little and the gun will slide down on recoil..into your lap! Point of impact on a shotgun can be moved up or down with just a little change in pitch...of course, cast will also change impact left and right...With that....I'll look forward to input from others
 
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I did notice the weird pitch,but prefered not to comment.
Yes 13.5" lop is too short for moi, especially since theres already near twice the thickness of recoil pad required for such a rifle. fixing the pitch & extend to 14"lop, would make that thing "butt ugly".
 
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The Burgess work is very well done, as always.


Elrod's work...meh! Never been a fan.

That said, I'd bet a dollar to a hole in a donut that the pitch was requested by the customer.


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You've got a just one small step above common piece of wood with very nice checkering and a slightly short stock in a common caliber. I think it is overpriced myself and I don't care if Jesus worked on it but that's my opinion and if someone loves it, more power to them.


I have to agree....for TWO THIRDS that money you could have had this:



"HOLLAND & HOLLAND
A .240 "APEX" BOLT-ACTION TAKE-DOWN SPORTING RIFLE, NO. 3076
24-inch barrel with ramp fore sight with folding hood, raised rear sight with folding leaf to 350, the receiver mounted with a Nickel Larburg 4x36 telescopic sight, Holland & Holland floor mounts, bolt with safety catch, magazine with detachable floor plate, recoil stud, the half length stock with pistol grip, cheekpiece and ribbed butt plate, 8lb. 6oz., nitro proof

Holland & Holland confirm that the rifle was built circa 1961. It appears little used and retains much of its original finish.

Sold for £2200"
 
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I make that $5390.00 what am I missing?
 
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Scrollcutter...you may be right, but I'll also bet the recoil pad is "aftermarket" I'll be alking to Mr Elrod about another matter, for the hell of it, I'll ask.
 
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I make that $5390.00 what am I missing?


Current pound/dollar exchange rate is 1.45 dollars/pound or 2200 pounds equals $3200.00 more or less.


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Go the the Cabela's site posted and carefully look at the pictures of the butt sections showing the pad. The stock looks to have been shortened and the pitch changed. You can see the trim marks on the finish either side if you resize the pictures. Also look at the pad and you will see that its been reshaped on the sides and top and the original patina around the toe has not been touched.

Despite this custom fitting there's lots of guys and gals out there with LOP less than 13.5". It a great example of metal and stockwork. Probably a great deal for the right guy.
 
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There is no magic in that rifle.
 
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe:
I make that $5390.00 what am I missing?


Current pound/dollar exchange rate is 1.45 dollars/pound or 2200 pounds equals $3200.00 more or less.



Common sense says you're right...maybe my calculator had PMS???
 
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Compare the apparent pitch in the top right picture with the pitch in the second and third pics of the second row. The pitch doesn't look that bad in the full picture, but a lot more in the second row pictures. Is this one of those optical illusion things???

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Just take a look at the checkering on the grip; it comes over the top...and under the bottom without a seam.


Forrest, there is a seam on the bottom. Look at the bottom metal photo and enlarge it when the window thingy appears and you will see the line on ctr where the checkering comes together. Still pretty nice job. I would say that the wood is far more than one step above ordinary but not exhibition.


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The "stand out" (put the rifle standing vertically with its butt on the ground in a doorway and then measure the distance between the muzzle and the upright of the door frame) is going to be terrible with the exaggerated short length of pull to the toe.

The wood? I've had BRNO ZKK rifles in my gun cabinet with wood not much less figured than that on this gun. Which I paid the equivalent of US $400 (FOUR HUNDRED) with the Zeiss Jena 'scope!

Talking of BRNO ZKK rifles...are these guys serious? I thought the silly season didn't start until 1 April?

Cabela's BRNO ZKK for...US $3000!!

For sale for US $3000!! This is a joke right? They're reckoning it's worth only US $200 less than the Holland 240?
 
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Just take a look at the checkering on the grip; it comes over the top...and under the bottom without a seam.


There is a seam on the bottom.


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