Ruger 416 Alaskan, Bad Feeding !
I posted this on the Big Bore Forum, seems I sure try here to ?
I just got a Ruger Alaskan in 416, dam thing, load the mag with three rounds rake the bolt back hard from unloaded chamber & first round jumps out of the mag ever time !
Second round feeds in, third round misses chamber high ever time !
Any body have thoughts on this ?
I actually got this to rebarrel to 458Win as a work/hunting rifle & when I load 458 rounds it does not do this, but the last round misses chamber high to .
17 April 2014, 06:13
BNagelSome will tell you it's the spring...
17 April 2014, 18:44
sambarman338Don't take it to Africa unless you can fix it definitely and finally. The short answer might be CZ.
17 April 2014, 20:03
BitterrootIt is not the spring. The Tyro thinks that a stronger magazine spring will cure all feeding ills. The problem with the 416 Ruger, and to a lesser degree the 375 Ruger, is cartridge shape and geometry compared to the geometry of the receiver that it's put into. I have found the 416 Ruger to be the most difficult of all big-bore cartridges to get to function properly in any bolt action; Ruger, CZ, Winchester, etc. Just by looking at it you woud think it would be a piece of cake to get it to work, but it's not. The 458 Lott, 500 Jeffery, and other carts. that have a reputation for difficult feeding are a breeze to get to function compared to the Rugers. I really don't like them.
18 April 2014, 00:12
BitterrootWhat gets me is Rooger (rhymes with booger)put their name on the cartridge and didn't even bother to make it half-way function in their rifle. Sarg's rifle is not a unique case. Get a Rigby.
Thank you for the comments guys .
here are a couple of pic's of the bolt face (not the reason for the bad feeding) but could the guys that know say if that botton step should be flat ?
In fact if you look hard you can see a cross on the bolt (easy to see in the hand) looks like the reamer marks when it stoped ?
Should these be polished flat to ?
18 April 2014, 16:38
farbedoSarg,
If you mean the step from the bottom to the face where the cartridge base will sit, yes, that is normal. It is a remnant of Ruger opening up the bolt face to accept the magnum case. You see it on most bolts opened up on a lathe.
Your bolt face looks identical to my 30 year old M77mk2 in 300 Win mag.
Jeremy
22 April 2014, 05:01
Suwannee Timquote:
Originally posted by Bitterroot:
What gets me is Rooger (rhymes with booger)put their name on the cartridge and didn't even bother to make it half-way function in their rifle. Sarg's rifle is not a unique case. Get a Rigby.
Learn something new every day!
Rooger, rhymes with booger!
Get a Rigby. Get a Model 70. Get a CZ. Get anything but a Rooger!
quote:
Originally posted by Bitterroot:
It is not the spring. The Tyro thinks that a stronger magazine spring will cure all feeding ills. The problem with the 416 Ruger, and to a lesser degree the 375 Ruger, is cartridge shape and geometry compared to the geometry of the receiver that it's put into. I have found the 416 Ruger to be the most difficult of all big-bore cartridges to get to function properly in any bolt action; Ruger, CZ, Winchester, etc. Just by looking at it you woud think it would be a piece of cake to get it to work, but it's not. The 458 Lott, 500 Jeffery, and other carts. that have a reputation for difficult feeding are a breeze to get to function compared to the Rugers. I really don't like them.
I agree that too many recommend a stiffer spring when one is not needed.
I don't agree that the .375/.416 Rugers are difficult to get to feed. Being as I don't work on Rugers, I will reserve comment on how factroy rifles behave.
That said, all the Mausers I have built in 375 or 416 Ruger feed beautifully.
It is espeically helpful to have bottom metal with the proper geometry.
