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Difference between 9x63 and 35 whelen?
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Anybody know? I believe there is a difference in bore size (slight) but would like to know any differences in chamber dimensions. I´ve seen only a picture of the 9x63 in "cartridges of the world" and the shoulder looks like its similar to the whelen AI
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If you want diagrams, I'd suggest googling "Steve Reloading Pages." He has diagrams of many different cases on his site.

The real difference is one is a wildcat (35 Whelen) and the other is a standard factory round (9.3x62). That may not seem like much, but the 35 Whelen was a wildcat for many years with varying dimensions that was finally "standardized" by Remington. The 9.3x62 has always had the same dimensions. Kudude
 
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The 9.3 x 62and 35W (30-06) cases are different enough that the Hawk/Scoville rounds based on the 9.3 will out-perform the AI equivalents by a measurable margin. But the differences are similar enough that 9.3 x 62 can be fireformed from 30-06 cases.

The reason it works that way is because the 9.3 operates at 45,000 psi so the web of the smaller but stronger 30-06 (being designed for 58,000 to 60,000 psi) isn't stressed too badly as a 9.3 x 62.

That said, the measurable margin isn't necessarily enough to say one substantially out performs the other. More a matter of degrees.


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I have the standard chambering reamer for both of these cartridges and the 9.3 X 62 has a lot more freebore ground onto it.

I can only assume therefore that the standard chamber of the 9.3 is a heavily freebored chamber like Weatherbys.

This might account for some impressive performance numbers from the 9.3 X 62.

If one really wanted he could freebore the .35 Whelen as well and gain some energy in his reloads.


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I think he asked about the 9x63 not the 9.3x62 as equivalent of the 35Whelen AI. They look basically the same to me but I don't have drawings of either. The standard Whelen seems to have a slightly straighter case than the 9 being a little larger at the shoulder. Don't have AI dimensions.


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Yupp, the 9x63 use the same .358 bullet as the .35Whelen. Cases are very simmilar, at same preassure same velocity will be achieved.


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Sorry 'bout that. Missed it all together. Can't comment on the 9 x 63.


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