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He put the bulk of his collection up for sale about a year ago via an auction or gun shop in Conn. At the time, people thought that $1700 for a Rem M700 was bit pricey. Seems they think it has gone up even more. That one will sit for awhile. | |||
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"Mr. Carmichel’s competition gun" I'm calling BS on that! with that SPORTER barrel...yeah right.   Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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LOL! Don't all of you guys rush out there and place a bid now... hate to see that rifle pushed up more than the asking price! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Ridiculous. Nothing against Mr. Carmichael, but his prior ownership of a particular gun might be an interesting conversational point, but that would be worth zip to me. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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But it's "a truly historical gun with exceptional provenance" ! | |||
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Yea, well so is yours! I can't see this selling for anywhere near this asking price! | |||
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I was at the nationals for a few of those years he was there and he was shooting a stock Rem 700 sporter in the hunter class. William Berger True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all. | |||
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Wel, I shoot BR with Jim and he uses the best you can get. That sure as hell doesn't look like the best you could get for that type competition. When I'm at the Super Shoot next month I might just have him shoot one group with mine so if I sell it I can really retire. Butch | |||
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Really! Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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I think 800.00 would be a stretch for me. | |||
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Back in the late 80's and early nineties metallic silhouette hunter class was not much of an equipment race. Most guys shot factory guns in the hunter class - with the 700 being the rifle of choice. the hunter class was designed to be a category in which you basically used the gun you hunt with. You could rebarrel but it had to be the same contour as the factory and no heavy barrels would make the weight requirement. The heavy class was where you ran into the full custom target rigs. William Berger True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all. | |||
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I have seen a few of his m70's for sale here and there. Well used with non-original pads in 270 and 30-06 with ridiculous price tages. Most were between $3,500.00-$5,000.00 for $900.00 tops guns, actually more like $700.00 to be honest. In my opinion the large number of guns owned by him kills the value. It isn't like they were hand made for him in the custom shop. He probably bought half of the oldies used. PA Bear Hunter, NRA Benefactor | |||
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You really can't help but wonder if someone mistakenly added an extra zero? | |||
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I wonder if he will trade for my empty Miller Beer bottle that was drank by Mickey Mantle | |||
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Shite... Heck, I have a Chapuis in 9,3x74R with very recent African provenance and proven performance that I would sell for a wee bit less than that. How many people can say that they own a genuine ISS rifle used in Africa? Bloody few, I can tell you that. I started shooting Hunter Class in 1990 and had Steve Kostanich build me a rifle the next year. You had to shoot a 247/250 even locally in the NW to make the top five for the TCL matches. I'd have to see anyone, including the 2009 Champion shoot a stock 700 and make the Top Twenty with it to buy that story. regards, Rich | |||
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ISS the referred to rifles was used for metallic silhouette - not bullseye. In my opinion it is not worth anything more than any other stock Rem 700 - it does have legitimate history having been used in his competitions. The National Record for the hunter class is 107/120 - that is the composite score of 3 40 round matches and was set in 2007. Below is the NRA rules for the hunter class silhouette rifle. If you have not tried a silhouette match you should give it a try. We had a "fun match" once where the requirement was thhat the rifle had to be 30/06 or larger in bore or be a magnum. 40 rounds of 300 wm was not a fun experience at the end of the match. Rule 3.1.1 High Power Hunting Silhouette Rifle - A hunting style rifle having a maximum weight of 9 pounds, including sights and if applicable, an empty magazine or clip. With the exception of single shot rifles, all other types must be repeating rifles, which shall be fired by loading all cartridges from the magazine or clip into the chamber. The intent of this rule is to describe a common hunting rifle. William Berger True courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway. - John Wayne The courageous may not live forever, but the timid do not live at all. | |||
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How much for my used jock strap? It has lots of provenance... Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I have a piece of once fired 20mm brass that came out of the gun my Dad used aboard the USS Evans DD552 to shoot down one of the Kamikazes that was trying to kill him in the South Pacific 40 miles north of Okinawa on 11 May 1945. That's provenance, and it's not for sale. | |||
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I would sell my 400/350Rigby for the same. My rifle has been bought by a US civil war veteran in London in 1905. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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OTOH some provenances make the gun worth less.........  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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I didnt think a Remington 700 BDL short action came with a hindged floor plate??? My 308 when it was new looked almost identical to that one. Minus the hindged floorplate. | |||
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The BDLs have hinged floorplates. Butch | |||
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Carmichel just got back from an auction. He picked up two Vias brakes and wanted to know if I wanted them. I said sure and send me two letters of authenticity with them. I will list them on gunbroker for $850 each. Butch | |||
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