I posted this under "Optics" and didn't get a response, I was hoping someone in here might know the answer.

"I see some of these scopes for sale with rail mounts. Does anyone know if the mounts are integral to the scope tube and, if so, is there anyone who makes an adapter to use them? Thanks CAT"

The rails are integral with the scope. EAW makes mounts for them. They are imported into the US by NECG

Kurt

Does NECG have mounts for American Bases or just for claw mounts?

Cat, just checked the EAW site, there is even an English version. To see the EAW swing mounts for rail mounted scopes, go to the bootom of this page: EAW - English - Pivot Mount - Information.
They call the solid rails "prisms", and the Zeiss "VM/ZM". There are links to click to see list of supported rifles for each mount.

- mike

[ 02-22-2003, 15:10: Message edited by: mho ]

Ooops double post...

[ 02-22-2003, 15:02: Message edited by: mho ]

mho,
All the standard-rail mounts that I've seen, were drilled sideways through the rail and fixed with a small bolt and nut; therefor no tapping needed.
The disadvantage of such a mount is that, when you want to put the scope on a different make of rifle, you have to drill 2 new holes, for a proper mounting and to get proper eye relief. If you do this 3 or 4 times, you risk running out of space for drilling new holes.

Dutchgus, I think you might be right. I might be confusing some other screws in my bridge (i.e. one-piece) mounts (all the standard rail scopes I have are on bridge mounts)?? When I looked at the pictures from EAW, I was wondering the same thing. Hmmm, one lives and one learns
- mike

I'll take rail mounts as opposed to rings whenever I get the chance. Advantages are :
- lower scope positioning ;
- scope always square with receiver ;
- no risk of denting the tube by overtightening ;
- no turrets being in the way of the rings, the eye relief positioning is limitless. I own several rail scopes :

Blaser R93, .300 Win Mag + Swarovski 2,5-10x42 + Blaser saddle mount

FN-Browning, 9,3x74R O/U + Swarovski 1,25-4x24 + S�hler claw mount

Sauer 202, 7x64 + Swarovski 1,5-6x42 + EAW swing-out mount

Win 70, .338 Win Mag (Lothar walther bbl.) + Swarovski 1,5-6x42 + EAW fixed mount

Many thanks for the information guys, that is 100% more than the zero I knew about rail mounts before. CAT

I went to EAWs site and, while I may have missed it, I didn't see any prices for their rail bases. Just to give me an idea, what is the rough cost in Euros for say, a set of base mounts for a Winchester Model 70?

Yeah, welcome to Europe. See the price on a web-site?? Are you out of your mind, that would mean the local gunsmith can't demand for the product what he feels like... (I'm jesting, but only just )

I don't have my catalogues with me, but if memory serves, before the Euro days, an EAW pivot mount (the one you'd want) would typically be about DM 500. That probably puts it between 250 and 300 Euro today - most probably without the cost for mounting it. This is Europe after all...

Hope I have not scared you away totally, the mounts really are excellent. Sauer and Steyr-Mannlicher do similar mounts, at similar prices, but mostly only for their own rifles.

- mike

About that amount if I remember correctly : 300 � for the swing-out and about 180 � for the fixed. True, more expensive than most U.S. mounts but they are true pieces of art. BTW, Sauer lists a swing-out mount, made by EAW (only the markings are different), ergo : don't pay more for a genuine "Sauer".