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I have a Burgess smithed Peruvian contract mauser in 6mm Remington. How common was that action and are they available time to time? square shooter | ||
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Not too common but even harder to find without a ton of pitting. Oddly enough, they seem to be more common and also somewhat favored as the basis of customs in Europe. The book "JAGDBÜSCHSEN - und GEDANKEN ZUR JAGD" is chock full of custom 1909 Peruvians most of which have extended tangs added. They do surface from time to time. Here is one on its way to becoming a 9.3x62.   Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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High charger hump like an Argentine? | |||
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No, winged bolt stop like the Argentine but much higher charger hump. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I like it; looks like yours above will keep it- any difficulties with retaining the hump and rear scope mount? Thanks- nice handle, too. | |||
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Thanks. This one is open sight only. You can keep the high hump and scope it. Claw mounts are nice for this. Too high to use a one piece base though. In my opinion if one wants an action sans High Hump then forego the Peruvian and get a standard length 98 action which are plentiful and cheap in comparison. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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nic lookin mauser Mike Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Peru ordered their Mausers from two different Vendors. One was the Oberndorf as has been previously shown in this thread, and they also had FN as a Vendor. Here is what one looks like from FN. Not quite as high of a rear bridge and the front ring is like a normal mauser.  (this one has some pitting on the front ring that will probably polish out if surface ground. For sale if anyone wants it) | |||
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I have been trolling central Texas for more than for 35 years. I bought one 98/09 stinker that had a lot of pitting below the wood line. The two or 3 others that I have seen were priced to make you go for something else AND they were pitted too. I have seen one of the M91 Peruvian Mausers which had the roller coaster (Lange) sight and it was a rusted junker too. | |||
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I had two 09's back in the day. I let a guy talk me out of them 'cause he wanted to build guns for some family members. I had advertised in GunList for them and gotten them dirt cheap. Wish like hell I'd kept one or both. There was a thread posted here 6 weeks ago with lots of pics of a rifle Duane Weibe had built for him on an 09 in the style of a pre-war Oberndorf sporter. Worth looking up to see the pics. | |||
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Here's mine with a couple of Argies mixed in.   It's really hard to get a good pic of the receiver; It's so shinny.   Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Here is how you use the charger hump and claw mounts:     Mike | |||
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Another Burgess Peruvian:  NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Mike- That is an incredible rifle. I love the Color Case Hardening; who did that for you? I also like the fact that you retained the crest on the front receiver ring. What caliber is that rifle? Thanks for sharing. May the wind be in your face and the sun at your back. P. Mark Stark | |||
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Mark, Here is a link to the specifics on the rifle. It was done by Duane Wiebe, that about says it all. http://forums.accuratereloadin...=316100279#316100279 Mike | |||
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Thanks to all- this is becoming a classic gun pR0n thread. | |||
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MJines What trigger did you use in your rifle? I like the way it sort of follows the lines of that Blackburn Trigger Guard. Also, is that Wiebe's checkering on that bolt knob or did you buy that bolt handle already checkered by somebody else? | |||
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22WRF, not sure on either question. Maybe Duane will weigh in. Better picture of the trigger:  Mike | |||
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If I may, I think he's referring to the trigger playing to the rear of the guard bow, not centerish. -and it is a nice point. | |||
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There ought to be a law for removing or disfiguring this crest.  | |||
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"There ought to be a law for removing or disfiguring this crest." Yep. I will never deface the fine example that I own. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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The thing is, you hardly ever find them with crests in that condition, most have considerable wear. Besides, some folks just don;t like crests. I guess they like the just waxed look. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Only rifle with a prettier crest, the Persian Mausers. It is sacrilege to grind one of those, hearsay to even drill and tap it. Mike | |||
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I definitely prefer "Mauser Original" in English. | |||
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You mean to tell me even the originals didnt come with timed screws...  _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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Well, here's one with a crest, barely: 09Peruvian NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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where those crests stamped with a press, how did they make those on the receiver ring?? in times when one needs a rifle, he tends to need it very badly.....PHC | |||
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cummins cowboy, it's done with what is called a "roll press". picture two cylinders rolling over eachother as a set of gears would. one cylinder is the reciever, the other a radiused die with the crest in relief on it. add a bunch of pressure and the crest is "rolled" into the reciever as they turn. done when the recievers are still dead soft as the first step in heating them up for heat-treatment and before the internal barrel threads are cut into the front ring. the recievers are heated and allowed to cool slowly to normalize before the threads are cut. this "normalizing" or stress reliving is actually the first stage of heat-treating. | |||
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Egads I'd hate to see that one below the stock line. Gotta be grotesque under there.
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Probably so. Rust and pits are all too common on many surplus Peruvians. Something to beware of when buying sight unseen. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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Are peruvians the standard length m98 or shorter? What about pursian standard length or shorter? | |||
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The Persian is pretty much the same as a Czech VZ24 and was made in the same factory. It is a standard length M98. The 98/09 Peruvian is an intermediate length action and is the most unique of the Peruvians. It has an extra long large ring receiver and a small thread. Some one else will have to tell you about the FN Peruvians. | |||
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