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Proper British round-eye sling swivel studs

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02 March 2016, 00:12
Bill/Oregon
Proper British round-eye sling swivel studs
Anyone have a source for these?


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02 March 2016, 00:37
craigster
I've used these before, somewhat similar.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/...px/910/1/SWIVEL-POST
02 March 2016, 00:39
Bill/Oregon
Thanks friend. I hadn't thought of looking at Track.


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02 March 2016, 03:52
Von Gruff
The TOTW sling eyes are markedly different to the British eyes for sling hooks Bill. I bought a handful but they don't realy convert over to the open eye very well. They are not quite large enough in dia of the head and the stem from the base the eye really is quite long and much more suited to the modern QD type of sling use.



Von Gruff.

http://www.vongruffknives.com/

Gen 12: 1-3

Exodus 20:1-17

Acts 4:10-12


02 March 2016, 04:13
Bill/Oregon
Garry, thanks for the comparison photo. You are sure right.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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02 March 2016, 04:50
setters5
Ullman precision?
http://ullmanprecisionproducts.com/swing-swivels/

Greg
02 March 2016, 05:13
kda55
Sorry I can't remember his name but someone here may know. A gentleman in Raton was making them- I bought a set from him several years ago. I think I got his name from Michael Tulowitki in Lakewood CO.
02 March 2016, 07:02
WoodHunter
Give me the inside diameter of that hole and the outside diameter of the ring and I just might try making a few. For the original one, that is!

Need the width, or thickness, of the ring also.

Or lay it on a sheet of scaled graph paper and I can figure it out.

A photo of the hook would be great also, I have a stash of spring steel rod that would be ideal for the hooks.
02 March 2016, 08:24
Von Gruff
quote:
Originally posted by WoodHunter:
Give me the inside diameter of that hole and the outside diameter of the ring and I just might try making a few. For the original one, that is!

Need the width, or thickness, of the ring also.

Or lay it on a sheet of scaled graph paper and I can figure it out.

A photo of the hook would be great also, I have a stash of spring steel rod that would be ideal for the hooks.


The dia of the stop ferrul is .358. It is .055 thick at the outer edge and gently radiuses to .100 at the base of the eye which is .250 dia
The eye is .458 is OD with the hook hole being .230, The eye is .242 thick and the hook hole radiuses toward the outer edge where it is just .05 thick.
I would be in for a set of the hook is you make them Woodhunter. I will try to get the dimensions of them for you
Peter Dyson in has a modern made (scroll down to see.
https://www.peterdyson.co.uk/a...ELD_RIFLE_parts.html

Personally I like the Winchester style
You may be able to scale it from here
http://www.hallowellco.com/sling_eye.htm


Von Gruff.

http://www.vongruffknives.com/

Gen 12: 1-3

Exodus 20:1-17

Acts 4:10-12


02 March 2016, 17:42
Bill/Oregon
Woodhunter, don't just make a few. I'd bet there is a nice market out there.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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04 March 2016, 03:28
Idaho Sharpshooter
checked NECG yet?
04 March 2016, 19:50
Bill/Oregon
Rich, I did first thing, and was disappointed.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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06 March 2016, 17:51
Jim Kobe
Try Rick Mason, I think he is making them.
303.761.2469


Jim Kobe
10841 Oxborough Ave So
Bloomington MN 55437
952.884.6031
Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild

12 March 2016, 19:44
Bill/Oregon
Thanks Jim!


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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23 March 2016, 01:46
Atkinson
One problem is on the guns I have owned over the years there seemed to a difference is sizes, I have now that is original Mauser that has a hole that fits a QD modern swivel and its old...I had an old .375 H&H Cogswell that had large holed hook sling on the barrel and it had a smaller one holed one one of the same design the butt stock..

I don't see why a good smith couldn't make a set..I suspect Jack Belk could, but probably would be hard to find one that wanted to.


Ray Atkinson
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11 March 2020, 19:37
Baylee
Been reading over old threads, a wealth of information and ideas. I know I’m resurrecting an old thread but does anyone know of a source for the large eye sling swivels. I’d like to use a canvas sling I have with the leather thong attachment and need the large eyes.
11 March 2020, 22:37
Woodhits
I have struggled with this very problem for a project that I'm working on. My solution was to order a pair of lanyard studs from Bowen Classic Arms since they match the style of the old sling studs.
http://parts.bowenclassicarms....ath=7&products_id=14

They sold me a pair without the rings and, though I haven't tackled that part of the project yet, I think they will work.

The "eye" itself will have to be opened-up on the mill and I will have to create a means of attachment so it's not a simple solution.
12 March 2020, 01:58
Baylee
Seems like someone would sell them. You can find a reproduction of most sites etc. but not the sling swivels?
12 March 2020, 03:56
kda55
John McGlothin, Raton, NM 575-445-2363
12 March 2020, 06:13
Baylee
Thanks I’ll give him a call
13 March 2020, 00:35
Rolland
I made this last night, I need one for a Mannlicher stock that I have being checkered now.
I used the measurements (or a close approximate) of the ones Von Gruff listed.
Now I know why they are so expensive it is labor intensive it is still covered in oil when I took the photo it looks better dry.



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16 March 2020, 23:53
Baylee
John McGlothin has them got mine in 3days. Exact size 7/16” and shape as the ones Rigby used. He also has the 3/8” version as used on the old Winchester’s that used the hook sling attachment. That one you made looks good also.
17 March 2020, 04:44
Rolland
I still need a set of sling hooks.


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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17 March 2020, 04:59
kda55
If you can round up a gentleman by the name of Stephen Coker he used to make a very elegant English style. I believe he was in Arkansas. His web site is no longer functioning. Maybe Mike Rowe knows of him, he posts on NE; all within the Fraser rifle community of enthusiasts.
17 March 2020, 07:19
Baylee
quote:
Originally posted by Rolland:
I still need a set of sling hooks.


Don’t know what your looking to pay but EBAY had two sets of the Winchester hooks sell this week one set $38.00 and one $64.00, which is about a third of the last ones I’ve seen. They sell for crazy amounts sometimes. You can put a search in on eBay and everytime some come up for sale you get notified or possibly you could trade some two ply toilet paper for a set, but they’d have to throw in some cash to make it fair.
17 March 2020, 09:44
Rolland
Well I have the toilet paper its in the bathroom just have to go out back and get a couple of rolls. I'm just short on cash Roll Eyes


Never rode a bull, but have shot some.

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NRA LEO firearms instructor (retired)
NRA Golden Eagles member