I'm looking at buying a used Win. Model 94 and the previous owner used JB weld to secure the scope bases on the barrel.

What is the best way to remove the bases with the least amount of damage to the barrel?

Will the JB weld permanently damage the blueing?

Thanks-Ron

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Originally posted by Grizzly1:
I'm looking at buying a used Win. Model 94 and the previous owner used JB weld to secure the scope bases on the barrel.

What is the best way to remove the bases with the least amount of damage to the barrel?

Will the JB weld permanently damage the blueing?

Thanks-Ron

I believe you can “pop†most epoxies loose by the judicious [!!!] application of heat...but I wouldn’t expect the bluing underneath to be any prettier when you’re done.

To clean the last bits of expoxy off, vinegar helps.

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vinegar helps

Since vinegar is an acid wouldn't it remove the blueing?

Before you start worrying about saving your bluing you might want to get the bases and J-B off and see if its something you need to be worrying about. As far as you know right now there ain’t any bluing under there to save!

I have had good luck breaking epoxy loose from smooth surfaces by freezing the item and rapping it with a plastic or wooden mallet.

Dry Ice, applied to the scope mount, might be a good substitute if you can't get the rifle in the freezer.

Pete’s suggestion is a better one than mine and I would try that before trying other methods.

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Before you start worrying about saving your bluing you might want to get the bases and J-B off and see if its something you need to be worrying about. As far as you know right now there ain’t any bluing under there to save!

My question was in reference to removing epoxy from a blued rifle. Not specific to his case.

I've used AZ Pete's freeze method to remove epoxy just curious about the vinegar methods potential damage.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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Before you start worrying about saving your bluing you might want to get the bases and J-B off and see if its something you need to be worrying about. As far as you know right now there ain’t any bluing under there to save!

My question was in reference to removing epoxy from a blued rifle. Not specific to his case.

I've used AZ Pete's freeze method to remove epoxy just curious about the vinegar methods potential damage.

Sorry for the confusion, but I didn’t post that in response to your question.

No offense taken.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:
No offense taken.

In answer to your question I would suggest applying a small amount of vinegar to a piece of blued steel and seeing what happens.

Thanks for the response guy's.

As far as the blueing is concerned, I haven't purchased the gun yet and if the blueing and or metal is going to be buggered up then I won't buy the gun. I dont want a gun looking like a turd and then have to invest a couple more big Ben's in it.

Sounding like I may pass on the gun..........Unless Winchester (I called Win and they said they used screws only) used screws and gum-pucky to fix the base to the barrel and did a poor job?

Thanks again-Ron

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In answer to your question I would suggest applying a small amount of vinegar to a piece of blued steel and seeing what happens.

I have, it takes the blueing off(at least hot blueing). Just thought I might be missing something.

Use acetone to clean up traces of epoxy.

Mind the fumes, though, and be sure to oil or grease the metal afterwards.

Methyl chloride will also remove most epoxies.

I don't know what effect it has on bluing...probably very little.

Methyl chloride is typically used to join two pieces of plexiglass together. It's pretty easy to find.

My preferred method is to put the piece in a
-40C freezer, like we have here at the hospital. Epoxy doesn't like subzero temperatures, and loses it's adhesion.

Garrett

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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In answer to your question I would suggest applying a small amount of vinegar to a piece of blued steel and seeing what happens.

I have, it takes the blueing off(at least hot blueing). Just thought I might be missing something.

That’s pretty funny! If you have already determined that vinegar eats the bluing why did you ask the question??????????

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That’s pretty funny!

Didn't mean to be funny. I had used it to actually remove some blueing. I just thought maybe using it different (more delute or something) might actually remove the epoxy without damage. Plus everytime I say somethng will happen someone proves me wrong so I hate to talk in absolutes?

Wasn't trying to be a smarta$$ just trying to learn something new.