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Bases and mounts, steel or alluminuim?
29 October 2003, 07:30
EXPRESSBases and mounts, steel or alluminuim?
I remember reading somewhere that there should be a correlation between the materials used for mounting a scope to the bases and reciever.
Steel reciever, alloy rings for a steel scope; or steel reciever, alloy bases, steel rings for an alloy scope.
Is this tue and if so, what is the correct coupling?
29 October 2003, 15:30
<Savage 99>Nope. The Weaver mount system uses anodized or painted aluminum and they have been on rifles for over half a century with perfect service.
29 October 2003, 15:33
WyocowboyshooterJust recently put a pair of Leupold Rifleman (Walmart) bases and rings on a 300 mag.(They are Aluminum) Was sceptical at first, but have had no trouble with them whatsoever, and they look just as nice as a pair of steel rings.
29 October 2003, 20:19
Pete EPut me down as somebody who prefer steel rings and bases...I don't doubt that alloy can work and that they are strong enough, but I find they are that much easier to strip the threads on.
30 October 2003, 00:16
1894Steel scope, bases and rings. Bases preferably silver soldered to action.
30 October 2003, 00:20
<eldeguello>Aluminum will work, but gimme steel any day!!
30 October 2003, 00:35
c&clook at the Talley ring and base system, its all one piece,look great and so far work great. smithson makes the same in steel but at a much higher price. both are very nice.
30 October 2003, 08:15
<JOHAN>Gentlemen
I consider aluminium an material that your shouldn't use for gunparts, at all. I would never used it
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Aluminium isn't even good for makeing pots and pans
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/ JOHAN
30 October 2003, 12:31
Chuck NelsonWho are Smithson and how do I get ahold of them.
Chuck
31 October 2003, 09:42
Todd CIf you look at Varmint Al's web sight he has a lot of detail regarding this. In summary he says you should match the scope metal to the receiver or base metal. This is allegedly to minimize any expansion differences between the two metals that might put stress on the scope tube.
That said I just bought a set of the Talley aluminum bases for my Rem Model 7 and absolutley love the look of the ring and bases being one piece. Saving 4 ounces over the Burris steel base and rings was just an added bonus.
30 October 2003, 23:03
stepchild 2Steel Only. I wouldn't have Weavers for free.
Stepchild
30 October 2003, 23:29
1894quote:
Originally posted by Todd C:
If you look at Varmint Al's web sight he has a lot of detail regarding this. In summary he says you should match the scope metal to the receiver or base metal. This is allegedly to minimize any expansion differences between the two metals that might put stress on the scope tube.
He needs to minimise stress - the scope he uses is a Tasco!
31 October 2003, 01:10
stubblejumperSteel only
31 October 2003, 01:51
Sako SafariChuck, here is Smithson�s page
http://www.smithsonblackburn.com/index.html/karl
31 October 2003, 01:53
Chuck NelsonI find it amusing that those that look for good enough, the least expensive route to result X, or so called economy in one aspect of a firearm are adametly apposed to it in others.
Chuck
31 October 2003, 03:42
ClarkI have been sporterizing my Mausers with #45 and #46 Weaver mounts that cost $2 Aluminum and $10 in Steel.
I have alway used steel so far, but in the 25 Mausers I am about to sproterize for an accuracy experiment, I am considering Aluminum for cost reasons.
I never buy Aluminum rings [except for 22 rim fire with Weaver or tip off], and pay extra for Weaver Grand Slam or Burris Z rings, or whatever made of steel. The Benchrest guys use Aluminum rings, and I wonder, "if the bench rest guys get away with it, can I?"
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31 October 2003, 03:51
TrademarkTexanI personally use only steel, if possible. One big advantage is that you can take the rings/scope off if you want and reuse the same rings. Aluminum "stretches" when you tighten the rings, and "relax" when you take them off. This makes them successively weaker each time. Also, I've stripped alot of screws in Al rings.
02 November 2003, 02:04
Major CaliberI've got Weavers on a .458, and they haven't moved in 18yrs.
02 November 2003, 17:41
ClarkI got a Tasco World Class Plus 10x40x50 becuase of what I read at the Varmint Al site.
It lasted 5 trips to the range.
Could it have been the steel rings on Aluminum tube?
Not likely, as it broke while I was adjusting it.
When I twisted the target turrets, I violating one of the rules of cheap scopes:
1) no recoil
2) no moisture
3) no changing adjustments