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Which recoil pad grinding jig do you prefer? What type of grinder do you use for grinding pads? I always eyeballed it, but back then I was making knives and lived in front of a belt grinder. It was a snap for me to accurately cut the pad. Getting older and hopefully wiser and want to start using a jig. Thanks! | ||
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I use this one from Brownells: Recoil Pad Jig I have it mounted to the disk table of my Powermatic Belt/Disk sander. I've had to modify it a bit to accommodate the various hole spacings and I have a selection of 10-24 cap screws of different lengths for various pad thicknesses. This setup works well for me. John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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And I use this one: http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.as...e=RECOIL%20PAD%20JIG I use a 10 inch disc sander. _______________________________________________________________________________ This is my rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. | |||
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Ditto, but mine is 12". (the disk, that is...  )Bent Fossdal Reiso 5685 Uggdal Norway | |||
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John, How do you adjust the dangle type pad grinder for different screw hole spacing? I like this one and have made an adjuster for one other hole spacing but.... I also have one from Gunsmither Tools, but have a few issues with it. ACGG Life Member, since 1985 | |||
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I have two multi use jigs, I use... 1) Lock, Stock, n Barrel in SLC UT 2) McCabe Custom Guns outside of Denver, CO Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I put the pad on the butt. I get my eye in the same plane as the sander. I rotate the gun and change the angle until it gets close. I change to a finer sand paper. If I grind off a little wood, I rub oil on it. Don't try that on a spray finish. | |||
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I've done an incredibly piss-poor job with both the B-Square and the Pachmayr, and I look forward to completely ruining an irreplaceable stock with the B&R some day. I won't list the size of my disc- I'm too decent a guy to make you all feel like a pack of eunuchs. | |||
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I use the same one that westpac uses never had any problems getting one to fit. WOW does that make me a gunsmith too  Never rode a bull, but have shot some. NRA life member NRA LEO firearms instructor (retired) NRA Golden Eagles member | |||
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I use a Miles Gilber fixture and mine (disc) is 12" too, 220 volt, turbocharged. It has 4 threaded holes on each end of the support bar so there are lots of combinations and permutations to suit almost anyone. | |||
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Steve, I drilled and tapped an additional hole that gives me the spacing I needed. So far I haven't needed another, but plan to approach that by either making an adapter or modifying the hanger so I can easily remove and replace the bar that attaches to the pads and make additional bars with the hole spacing I need. John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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Who needs jig...2 layers of masking tape on the stock and grind away. Keeps your hands in tune for lots of other high precision work. | |||
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Yup, and then try to explain to the client why you had to add finish to the stock where you dinged it. I use the same one that John Farmer uses only I added a new piece on the end to allow for different hole spacing. It is simply to use and to line up correctly. But! I wll add this: I think the recoil pad job is the worst job in the world. I would rather clean out the shit house than do another one. I hate it, but it sometimes needs to be done so I wait til the end of the day and then I can jump into the shower. That shit gets into everything and all over. I use a 12" disc sander but don't have a dust collector on it. Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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+1  _____________________ Steve Traxson | |||
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I just use the vacum cleaner I have in the shop, works great. Bent Fossdal Reiso 5685 Uggdal Norway | |||
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Too funny! I just got out of the shower after fitting two pads. And I also have my shop vac hooked up to my disc sander like Bent. +3 John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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None at all! I use the stock to hold the pad. Can't think of a better way. I've got a 6x48 belt sander and a big "hard compound" wheel to finish it off. | |||
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Man, you're a neat-freak... be careful running that grinder and the shop vac , you could get electrocuted.  | |||
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NO JIG NEEDED!! First set up a vac system to trap the grinding dust. Your lungs should be protected by using a mask also. I installed hundreds of pad by grinding on Thursday so guns were available for the week end. Sometimes we had 10 to 20 to grind. Cut and fit pads as they came in and grind at one time. I found that a heavy duty bench grinder with an 8 in wheel with a course grit would rough cut fast on the neoprene. Used masking tape to protect the stock and to light up the side next to the wheel. Make a funnel type vac trap to replace the guard on the wheel. I have used the 12 " disk grinder, but find that the bench grinder is faster with more control of the stock. For the finish up I would use a 5 in flex disk with the 1/4 drill motor with about 2200 rpm's. Use only about 1 in of the outer area of this disk to cut. 100 grit was about right. Grind by touching the tape with the 5 in disk and throw the dust away the the gun into the dust trap mounted base that can be moved around. I was timed once in a shop to see how long it would take and in 24 minutes I cut off two stocks on a band saw, sanded smooth at the vise with a 60 grit floor sanding strip on a 2X2X12 block, installed the pads, and ground to fit. Without nicking the stock!! This was a way the Pachmeyr recommended over 50 years ago. Leave the metal on the stocks to add weight for better control. I also found be using a couple of bags of shot to hold the stock flat on my bench to finish grinding was the fastest way and easy to use. | |||
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For all you folks who don't use a jig: How do you manage to work around a cheek piece? Also, to the gentleman that uses two layers of masking tape- are you really satisfied with your recoil pad being oversized by the .020" that the tape makes up? | |||
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That was a concern of mine. That guy must have arms like Alley-Oop Jim Kobe 10841 Oxborough Ave So Bloomington MN 55437 952.884.6031 Professional member American Custom Gunmakers Guild | |||
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I guess you use what you feel comfortable with, I grid all my pads on the stock using a 6x48 belt and masking tape too. I try to cut into the tape but not the stock and finish the last little bit by hand. I was taught this method at TSJC while I was a student and it works for me. I pull the metal as I find it easier. It does keep one on their toes. Steve | |||
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If you use a 5 inch disk and have the stock flat on a bench the grinding with 1 layer of masking tape on a finished stock is quick. The control around the cheek piece is a simple job by moving the disk farther out on the stock. As for the tape thickness you can run the disk down on the tape without cutting through and get to about .002 left to cut. Use a 1X1x12 stick to back up a 280 grit emory to clean up the last bit of hard black base. I use a little mineral spirits as a lube to keep from building up the 280 grit. Try this method on a junk stock and you will see what I am saying. Remember that this is on a factory gun needing a recoil pad installed. On a new stock it is easy to finish the pad down to the wood without cutting into the wood. I use a fine grit like 220 running at high speed to keep the stock as smooth as possible before I start the sanding. Control is easy to keep the angle of the stock and extend to the pad. I go half way around with the disk and then turn it over for the other side. I know of 5 shops that changed over after I showed them how to keep the dust down. If you want black lungs just keep on grinding without trying to protect yourself. You will look like a coal miner soon. | |||
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There always has been more than one way to skin a cat. I like reading about them all. John Farner If you haven't, please join the NRA! | |||
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I use freezer tape it is only about .005. By the way be sure to hold your elbows in against your ribs not out in the air like a turkey flapping its wings. You will have better control.  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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