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Are these two screws straight slot or philips? Trying to help a buddy out as he doesn't want to "bugger" up the screws using the wrong screwdriver. Gun is less than 20 years old.


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Should be Phillips, put some vaseline aroung the screwdriver tip so you don't bugger up the holes. If that don't work, use a flat one; pretty simple to figure it out.


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Not sure about the vaseline - won't that make it harder for the screwdriver tip to get a good hold on the screw heads? And do you mean a narrow flat one?


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If you have any doubt, use a scibe as a probe and you can easily tell if it is a filister head or a cross-point.

Use some sort of lubricant on the screwdriver and use the smallest diameter shaft you have available. As long as you hold firm pressure on the screwdriver you won't cause problems using lubricant to protect the rubber.


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Just took one off two days ago. It is a Phillips, but a rather small one (#2 was too big to get a good bite.)
 
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OK, here's the story - buddy couldn't get ANY philips screwdrivers to work so ended up BARELY getting one screw out with a narrow straight driver and found the *&%)(^$@ to be a SQUARE drive type that "kinda" looks like some oddball philips might work too (I've seen the type). Had to grind a square drive tip on another old screwdriver and barely got the other &^$^*&#% screw out. Both screw heads were "buggered up" by that time. What kind of idiot thought up that idea! Even the screw pitch seems odd - thanks a lot Ream-ing-tongue.

He replaced them both with some "normal" screws. Oh, also had to cut/grind/drill out the rubber to get better access for the screws.


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that sounds like a roberts or robinson or is robertson head that is common in canada?

Are you sure it came from the factory that way?


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Yes, he got it brand new in the box.


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I heard /read some where that they had gone to square drive screws on recoil pads at the factory
 
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The vasoline or grease will prevent the rubber from tearing when you turn the screwdriver. If you don't use any you will FU the pad & it will look aweful where the screwdriver went in. Jim gave you sound advice.



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Didn't really care about the pad (which can be replaced) - problem was getting the &*%&&** screws out.


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