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These are the pictures Carlos took of the new CZ 550 Magnum stock. Now, this gun is from Canada, and I notice it has a vented rubber pad instead of the Pachmayr Decelerator that comes on guns sent to America. I really hope CZ-USA will start importing these, but I have no idea if that will happen or not. Best, Joe | ||
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Are these guns coming straight from CZ with this stock? | |||
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Straight from CZ to the distributor. Carlos | ||
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I'm perplexed on which model you ordered. None of CZ's websites show this model. | |||
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I believe this stock was illustrated, at one time, on CZ's website www.czub.cz Unfortunately, the picture probably disappeared around the same time as all the hot women holding guns I'd *really* like to see CZ-USA start importing these, and make the .458 Lott an option. What were they thinking?!?!? Best, Joe | |||
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Yes I wish they would offer there magnums with this stock as well, however the hogs back seems to me to be nice to shoot. | |||
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Martin is right, the standard stock is way to low to use it with a scope - actually it is on the low side for irons too. Franz | |||
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Martin, Were you able to buy this rifle in Prague and bring it back to Switzerland? What (if any) paperwork issues did you have? Did you just drive accross the borders or fly? | |||
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Stu, I needed an import license from the Swiss Federal "department for justice and police", easy to get, just some paperwork and CHF 50. In Prague, I first had to get a translation to Czech for this Swiss document, and then I had to get an export permit from the local police station. I took the rifle from Prague to Z�rich by air, as checked-in baggage. No problems with the whole procedure. Regards, Martin [ 06-18-2003, 10:16: Message edited by: martin f ] | ||
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Martin F is right. This is the "Standard" stock and has been aviable on BRNO and CZ guns here in Norway as long as I have been visiting gun stores. I have ovned two ZKK 602 in 375 H&H with this stock, and right now a ZKK 601 in 308 Win. is sitting in my cabinet with this same Standard stock. The CZ 550 Series including the Magnum, is offered with this stock any time here in Norway. The stock is, as Martin mentioned, made for iron sights, as have been unchanged for many years. That said, shooting sitting or standing, it copes all right with scopes mounted low. Prone shooting though not recommended due to the drop.At least, that�s my experience. Lots of this guns see regular use here, and all og them I have seen are mounted with scopes. | |||
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I would take the Lux hog's back stock any day over that. That stock is unsuitable for scopes, and it appears too low for all except the lowest iron sights. | |||
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I just called CZ usa to check and they said that right now in the US they only have the European style stock, which I guess is what they call the humpback number. He said at the end of the year they should be getting them with the American Style stock. Just FYI. Red | |||
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I tried a rifle with hogback stock, too. Better with a scope, but still not ideal for me. And I did not like the looks of it. The rifle is now at the gunsmith, he will raise the comb, by almost an inch at the heel. He will also reshape the pistol grip, and trim of excess wood where possible, the stock simply feels too fat to me. Thr funny thing is that CZ is making a very well-designed straight stock for the "American" model, but only for the standard length action. Martin | ||
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That is an older stock. It is not new. They have been around forever. It is essentially the humpback planed flat and the old ventilated pad. I saw a 416 Rigby CZ 550 with that stock in Botswana in 2001, bought by the PH some time before that. Even the Lux stocks have become trimmer than the older bulbous proportions. And the pad is a Pachmayr Decelerator instead of the cheap ventilated pad they used to have. The cheekpiece on the older Lux stocks used to be rounded. Now it is angular, like the cheek piece on the Pennsylvania-style Kentucky long rifle, Germanic/Bavarian/Jaegeresque? The older BRNO stocks went through variations too. The American style stock on a CZ 550 Magnum would be interesting. Personally, I find the Lux stock has grown on me. Good for irons or scope, as good a compromise as any can be. Good recoil handling too. Those who scoff at the Lux stock are akin to extended pinky finger types shooting 400 H&H rifles. | |||
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DagaRon: This CZ 550 is a 416 Rigby which I am having Ron Smith rebarrel with one of his gain twist barrels, #7 contour, in 450 Rigby. I'm going to have a Kahles 1.1-4x scope with low mounts installed. Do you think the stock is going to prove to be a problem? Does the stock need to be reinforced going to the 450 Rigby? | ||
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Carlos, I would find your stock perfect for iron sights, but I would prefer the Lux contour to compromise for low scope and irons. The Lux works great for me. Irons/express sights make great sense on a 450 Rigby. Since you are rebarreling, you can get the best. Scope shooting with low mounts could be done OK, but that will be a secondary role with a stock that is shotgun style. To add a piece of walnut to the comb and create a bigger butt and less drop would be an interesting stock refinishing job. I would add another cross bolt at the primary recoil lug of the action, and one at the barrel recoil lug (hidden there) since you are going to have a standard type recoil lug on the barrel, eh? And get pillars instead of the spacers installed. Or maybe get a McMillan classic express and install some higher express sights on your new barrel? All the alternatives have their pros and cons. I would try the one you've got first and see how you fit, with a good pad and proper pull length. See what you think. Those CZ's have surprisngly good wood most times. I never met one that I didn't like. As for the 450 Rigby ... I prefer the 45 Lapua, over on the Wildcat Forum. | |||
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CZ makes three stocks: Standard, with low comb and pad, for big bore iron sighted rifles. Lux, with high comb and low pad, for use with scopes and all cartridges. American, with high comb and high pad. This is the latest addition, and was added when the US market complained about the other two choices. Keep in mind that this style makes little sense to Europeans, who like to hold their head up when they shoot. Trying to convice them to put this stock on a large bore magnum actually sounds absurd to them, as it is useless with iron sights. There would have to a overwelming demand for them to convice their marketing department that it would be a worthwhile endeavor. | |||
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