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I bought a nice looking old Gustav mauser w.o. asking too many questions -- it was some kind of S. American short-barrel calvary carbine. My local 'smith told me it was a "96" model, and he didn't think it could handle the pressure of the 375 Ruger. Is this correct? If any of this sounds illogical, it's probably my memory.


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If it is indeed an M96 Mauser, use a different action for the 375 Ruger. Better actions have been around for over a century.


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Carl Gustav mausers were made in Sweden, and are very well made, but I think a 375 Ruger Would not be a good fit for that action. The max average SAMMI pressure of 63,00 psi is also WAY over the original design limit. Though that same action was used by Husqvarna to produce rifles for high pressures cartridges.
 
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The action will take it fine, but there are some concern of escaping gasses if a blowout should happen..... Oh, but it is not supposed to be worse than a WinM70........


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I bought a nice looking old Gustav mauser w.o. asking too many questions -- it was some kind of S. American short-barrel calvary carbine. My local 'smith told me it was a "96" model, and he didn't think it could handle the pressure of the 375 Ruger. Is this correct? If any of this sounds illogical, it's probably my memory.

Take it back and see if you can find a VZ-24 or another German, Czechlosvakian, or Belgian made M-98 for the task.

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If it is indeed an M96 Mauser, use a different action for the 375 Ruger. Better actions have been around for over a century.

IMO this is excellent advice.


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I would keep it under 50k psi. Make a nice 9.3x62 on it. I would also send it out for heat treat. They tend to be pretty soft.
 
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I would keep it under 50k psi. Make a nice 9.3x62 on it. I would also send it out for heat treat. They tend to be pretty soft.


What? Soft steel in a 96, wonder what Bent thinks about that. Big Grin
 
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"it was some kind of S. American short-barrel calvary carbine."

If it ever was a short-barrel calvary carbine it was a model 94 Swedish carbine. Very fine weapon, and getting scarce.
 
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I bought a nice looking old Gustav mauser w.o. asking too many questions -- it was some kind of S. American short-barrel calvary carbine. My local 'smith told me it was a "96" model, and he didn't think it could handle the pressure of the 375 Ruger. Is this correct? If any of this sounds illogical, it's probably my memory.


In view of the considerable number of high pressure rounds for which M96 Swedish Mausers have been rebarreled, such as the .308 Winchester, it is conceivable that one could make a .375 Ruger out of one, and not have your head blown off!

But, like many things that are perhaps possible, the mere possiblity does not make it a GOOD IDEA!

If the bore is in good shape, and assuming it is indeed a 6.5X55, use it in that caliber. You'd be amazed at what you can kill with the 6.5X55, using the right bullet for the job at hand.


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I'm a big fan of the Swedish '96 actions for a lot of rounds others consider too high-pressure but the 375 Ruger is a bit past my desires. Not for safety but for comfort. When you get into recoil energies that high and more importantly, recoil velocities that fast, weight matters. If you're recoil-proof then a Swedish '96 would make a sleek, light weight 375 Ruger.


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post a picture of it.

If its a swede Carl Gustaf m94 carbine in nice shape its worth up to $1000.
 
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Well, I doubt it's worth anywhere near that -- it's obviously been restocked -- but, it does have the original sights/short barrel, etc -- is there anything in particular that I should photograph -- I just picked it up to play with/turn into something else -- if it actually has any collector value, I'd happily sell it off to a collector, and go find something else to play with.


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this is a quote from Introduction to Modern Gunsmithing by Harold McFarland (1965)
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The first thing to remember is that there were no modern strong Mausers before the model of '98. The receiver rings are small in diameter but the prime difference lies in the method of breeching. All these earlir actions lack the inner stop ring inside the receiver ring. This is the feature that encloses and supports the bolt nose that contributes much of the great strength of the model '98 action.

Modern actions rarely shear a bolt lug, instead they hold until they permit a cartridge case to burst. When that happens, the escaping high pressure gas can wreck the best action. So in the final analysis the prime factors in action strength are the completeness of the enclosure and support of the bolt nose. The earlier action might shoot right along at 70,000 psi pressure as long as cartridge cases are of excellent quality. But considering that case quality isn't consistantly good, these actions can't be trusted at breach pressures above 45,000 PSI.


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