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19 April 2011, 05:13

BaxterB

Williams Extractors **PICS ACCED**

I have tried to call and email Williams for the last week and only gotten a message so I am posting to the people who probably know...

I know Williams made extractors for the Model 70's but are ALL of them, (even the OEM ones) marked with W? I have two very late New Haven guns and have been told the extractors are NOT Williams because they do not have the W. I was under the impression that in the later years of New Haven, ALL of the extractors were the Williams.

Thanks!

_BAxter

Here is one of them...

19 April 2011, 09:41

Gadge

No, they weren't all 'W' marked.

I have a couple here, obtained direct from Williams, that only have a 'M-L' marking [for magnum casehead, left hand].

The earlier New Haven extractors were of course, the black finished type made by the MIM process. Those ones have a few telltale 'casting' characteristics, like a square end to the collar slot.

19 April 2011, 09:57

BaxterB

Ah, this helps a lot. My one extractor I have taken off is the silver/stainless colored one and has only the S-R marking, no W.

I will double-check for the square end to the collar slot, but my memory tells me it was rounded.

Could you elaborate on any other of the characteristics of the MIM'ed ones?

I am not sure what is up with Williams, if they are away for a while or what.

Thanks for the info,

_Baxter

19 April 2011, 10:20

BaxterB

BTT with pics

19 April 2011, 15:28

Gadge

quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
Ah, this helps a lot. My one extractor I have taken off is the silver/stainless colored one and has only the S-R marking, no W.

Could you elaborate on any other of the characteristics of the MIM'ed ones?

That one's a Williams, for sure. Williams have made these in both 416 stainless and 4140 CrMo steel, but I don't know if Winchester fitted any of the 4140's.

The MIM type didn't have the letter codemark [that one is 'standard, right hand'], and had a couple of 'embossed' marks on the inside of the extractor tail. The one I have [and replaced with a Williams] has a circle just below the collar slot, and an 'X' down near the far end of the tail.

19 April 2011, 20:26

BaxterB

Thanks Gadge...this confirms one more example that the gunsmith didn't know what he was talking about...

Thanks!