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Hi I bought a 3-9X scope for my son's savage 22 mag. we usually used 4x setting and when my son tried to shoot with 8x setting sudenly the point of impact moved 3inches to the right and when we tried the 4x it becomes normal again.!! What is wrong with this scope? I am sure nothing is wrong with the gun because I tried an old weaver 4x and it shoots great with this one. Danny | ||
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Hi Mats actually we paid nearly the same price for the scope as for the gun. It is sad that an almost 40 years old weaver should shoot much better than a brand new scope. what happened to the quality I am really pi... off because the garanti time is over,anyway garanty dosen't mean a lot in these days. Attention don't buy a cheap crapp .A good zies costs more than 4 time the price of a savage and a leopold more than twice!!buy a good scope if you can afford it may save your time,money and hunting. danny | |||
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Stick to Leupold, Redfield, Burris, etc.. Trashco  , cheap Weavers, and the like are not a bargain at any price. They are made for people who do not understand or appreciate quality. They are expected to not work properly. If you bought a quality scope, send it back to the factory for replacement. They usually repair or replace it for free. [This message has been edited by scot (edited 05-10-2001).] | |||
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I once saw an in-house technical bulletin of a respected scope manufacturer. The subject was their new variable scope and one of the engineers was opposed to the extension of the variable scope range of products. He felt it would be at the cost of the fixed power range and commented that he saw no point in an instrument with which you could not help but miss. ------------------ | |||
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Danny, du kan k�pa en Leupold V-XII 3-9 f�r strax �ver 3.000:-. Med lite tur kan du hitta en Redfield 5-Star till r�tt kurs ocks�. Bausch & Lombs 3000-serie har ju nyligen blivit ersatt av 3200, de kan finnas till bra pris n�nstans. De dyrare Sightron siktena verkar vara mekaniskt stabila, men optiken �r kass. Weavers kikare �r f�rmodligen de billigaste du kan k�pa och f�rv�nta dig funktion, om �n optiken l�mnar en del att �nska. Tasco, Simmons, billiga Bushnell, Shirstone, Leapers, Reitz, Fontaine m.fl. �r - urs�kta franskan - ren j�vla dynga. Simmons Aetec �r bra, men kostar en del. Dyra Bushnell (3200, 4200) �r gamla B&L och mycket bra. -- Mats | ||
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I own Tasco, Shepherd, Simmons, BSA and Bushnell variable power scopes and none of them change their point of impact when I change the magnification setting. I say you have a bad scope. | |||
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Hi Robert May be the reason that those name you mentiened are working so good in USA is that consummers are better protected in your country than here in Europe and you can sue them and make them pay back and much more, and it is why they send a lot of trash to sel here. my poor kid had worked a whole summer to save money to buy that crapp. best regards danny | |||
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Hi, Danny: A young friend had his Bushnell Buckhorn 3-9X go tinkle-tinkle on him just before deer season. We put my old Leupold M8-8X on since it was the only one handy. An 8X isn't ideal in this poplar bluff country, since shots can be at any range, but he and his little sister tagged out, despite passing on some shots that were too close. He now understands why a Leupold M8-4X at $350 is a beter deal than a 3-9X at $90. Bye | |||
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Hi Mats Jag bes�kte Staffan's website, en bra site. Normalt handlar jag hos Nilssonimport och har varit i stort s�tt n�jd . vet du var man kan k�pa krut fr�n hodgdon,win,imr helst i sydsverige inte i Norrland p� grund av avst�ndet. mvh danny | |||
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Danny, Every hunting season, I see cheap scopes fail.the wheels fall off just about when they see a 50" buff...Leupolds seldom fail and have been the best in my experience..Heavy European scopes have a hard time maintaining zero as the move within the rings during recoil and this is caused by being too heavy and some have a slick finish on top of that... That said I also don't care for most varibles and feel like a good fixed power has just that much less to go wrong. ------------------ | |||
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Hi Ray I usually don't use scopes for hunting. it was the kid that wanted to top his 22 mag with scopes. I prefer to stalk as near as possible by walking ,crawling and all the permited manners and when i am near enough then i shoot. i never trust the artificiel eyes,no scope can take the place of good iron sight and a pair of good eyes. nowdays the gunmakers don't put iron sights on the guns and what a great shame it is. best regards danny | |||
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Danny, Might as well spill the beans and tell us what brand and model it is. Also, might as well try clamping the gun in a vise, centering the crosshairs on something and then change the magnification and see what happens. Eveb though it is a long shot, the mounts or something could be loose, and when you change the magnification the twisting on the scope causes something to shift. changing back of course moves it the other way. This is just a guess of course, but then if you do have a loose mount or something else too obvious sometimes things like this help you find problems. Another option to try, if it truly is a broken scope, is contact the manufacturer directly with a hand written letter. You implied that customer service is better in the US than Scandinavia, (frankly I'm suprised because I've found Scandinavians to be far more polite and enjoyable than the average American!) but I think it is still worth trying, especially if it is an American company. In a worst-case scenario you might want to try to see if they will at least credit you the price of the scope towards the purchase of a better model. Another more slightly dishonest option is to purchase an identical model and send your broken one in for repair, this leaves you with 2 scopes but you can sell one. Fortunately my Karma has evolved so I don't do that sort of stuff anymore, but from what you stated here it sounds like you couild do it with a clear conscience. | |||
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Hi The scope is Simmon 3-9x and is not made in USA but made for an us comp in the people republic of china!!. in the begining we didn,t noticed the problem because we used it in the garden and 40 yds distance and 4x but a couple of weeks ago my son tried to use higher magnification and sudenly the point of impact moved 3 inches to the right and the savage is a real good shooter and grouped all 4 shots verey well but far at the right!!. then i moved the scope and tried an old weaver 4x,those with brass screw and shot many series with the same accuracy.nothig is wrong with scandinavian ,the gents are nice and correct,but changing an imporeted goods especially when garanty is over is not easy thing to do. best regards danny | |||
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quote: Danny, None of the Simmons scopes are made in the USA, they are all made in Tiwan/China. I hate to tell you this, but the simmons scopes are considered junk,in the USA, as are Tasco, BSA, , by most shooters. The old Weaver is a far better scope than anything Simmons makes, IMO! Any scope that changes zero with a change in veriable power,especially on a .22 mag, is either broken, or not a very quality scope to start with. Sorry! ------------------ | |||
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