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Book: The Smoke and Mirrors of the Feed Cycle
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Anyone have this booklet and is it worth buying?
http://wyattsoutdoor.com/produ...02f44c3b9ac1cf10f664

thanks!

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For the modest price, yes, but don't expect a sweeping treatise on the subject.

It does present a few concepts that helps simplify troubleshooting the feed cycle, primarily in regards to the width of the stack, the shape of the rails, and how those factors affect the way the cartridges move through the feed cycle.
 
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I don't use no book; no calculations, no angles; I make them feed like the Pinball Wizard won the crown. And this method works. You have to become the system.
 
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I don't use no book; no calculations, no angles; I make them feed like the Pinball Wizard won the crown. And this method works. You have to become the system.


Sounds like you are channeling that guy from the frozen and sunless North. Big Grin
 
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We still talk a lot to each other. Some of it rubs off.
 
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My "system" starts with the properly configured magazine box for the intended cartridge.

If you don't have that, you have to bubble gum your way from one compromise to another.
 
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My "system" starts with the properly configured magazine box for the intended cartridge.

If you don't have that, you have to bubble gum your way from one compromise to another.


Amen.




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We still talk a lot to each other. Some of it rubs off.


dancing

I'll bet it does! rotflmo


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Yes, but can you make a Remington 7400 feed 3 loads reliably? Big Grin
It's a Devil's brew of mag latch height, magazine spring strength, feed lips, action spring strength, and gas orifice diameter. Remington makes 5 different mag latches for the beast. We've got one in the shop now that will feed the first two rounds from the mag with any load but will miss the third. IOW the bolt is outrunning the mag spring. The action is cycling so fast after two rounds the mag spring can't push it up fast enough. A new mag didn't help. We're going to try a stronger action spring tomorrow in an effort to slow it down.

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I don't use no book; no calculations, no angles; I make them feed like the Pinball Wizard won the crown. And this method works. You have to become the system.
 
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We still talk a lot to each other. Some of it rubs off.


lol

pssss..... talk him into a Show and Tell on timing a Rem bolt and showing off his welding skills.
I will toss a couple of handle welds jobs his way.
 
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I was interested until I found they were going to charge $37 for postage. Is that the benefit of competition? I can send 150-page books to the US for around $US8 through our post office - why does stuff cost so much to come this way?
 
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Finally got them to send it to a friend in Baton Rouge we'll be visiting in February. I see postage within the US is free.
 
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I was interested until I found they were going to charge $37 for postage. Is that the benefit of competition? I can send 150-page books to the US for around $US8 through our post office - why does stuff cost so much to come this way?


My understanding is that there is a international postal organization that sets the fees, and the U.S. Post Office basically agreed to subsidize the cost of sending mail to the U.S. from many countries after WWII. There is a scam in China where they can send trash - literally office trash - to the U.S. and actually make money doing it because of the subsidies and large amount of shipping from China to the U.S. reducing the actual cost.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sambarman338:
Finally got them to send it to a friend in Baton Rouge we'll be visiting in February. I see postage within the US is free.

Let me know where you sign up for that Wink tu2
 
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Three components to international rates -

1) Charges in the origination country for local handling - set by the origination country

2) Transit charges set by International treaty.

3) Charges set by the destination country that must be paid by the originating country which are not always the same as local mail. In other words, Australia or any other country can charge the US whatever it wants to deliver a package in Australia. Given the history of trade agreements and countries historical desire to protect local industries, I suspect those charges are not the same that Australia charges Australians for local deliveries.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Yes, Mike,
trade distortion may be something to do with it. I wanted to get a collapsible two-quart GI water bottle from the US but the merchant would not send it, even at the inflated postage, because it was vaguely related to armaments.

I then found the same thing at about the same price on an English site and got it shipped for half as much.

I think American rates can vary widely, though, and some of private companies really know how to charge.
 
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