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Gents, Can someone provide the actual differences between these two rifle stocks? It appears the Legend stock is built primarily for scope use while the McMillan Supergrade has a bit of drop at the heel. Except for the missing cast on, the best fitting stock I have found yet is one on an old 1946 mfg date M70 in 270. Thanks. Jeff | ||
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Apples and oranges. The similarity ends after you get past the model of action they are designed for. Literally, everything is different. | |||
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Thanks, Charlie. Can the Legend be used with iron sights? If so, do they need to be higher since there does not appear to be any drop in the heel of the stock? | |||
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Yes, the Legend can be used with iron sights. There isn't a lot of drop, but it works. | |||
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I guess that was my original question, Charlie: can someone measure the two side by each and provide those mesaurements? Drop at comb and heel and cast for each. | |||
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When I was building my .300 I started with a Mc.Supergrade stock and did not like the small, narrow fore end (when prone I use my left hand to really pull the stock back into my shoulder useing the tip of the stock). The legend has a good, usable fore end, and I also like the high heel for prone shooting. | |||
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McMillan can probably tell you all that you want to know and then some. Try giving them a call.  Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I cannot imagine one single solitary reason for going with the supergrade over the Legend stock. Not one, and I've owned both. Unfortunately I don't have a supergrade around to compare for you. | |||
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You must have had better luck with McMillan than I have had. IME their answers have been short and vague at best and short and surly the rest of the time. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Here are some pictures of D'Arcy's stock mated to a rifle with sights.    | |||
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Jeff, didn't you own a LH Legend stock? | |||
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Those are the results I've gotten. To big for their britches www.KLStottlemyer.com Deport the Homeless and Give the Illegals citizenship. AT LEAST THE ILLEGALS WILL WORK | |||
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Chuck, I did for a few days and wound up selling it back to Echols before amy measurements were ever taken. Jeff | |||
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Oh, why did you sell it back? | |||
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Financial issue on another front I had to deal with. D'Arcy was very accomodating. | |||
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That peep is SWEET! | |||
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It is indeed, as is the front. Who's the maker, Echols? | |||
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Correct. | |||
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The use of a peep is a good alternative to regular iron sights on a gun designed to shoot well with a scope. The peep allows you to keep your head more upright. Darcy builds some nice stuff indeed! ****************************************************************** R. Lee Ermey: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle." ****************************************************************** We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, Which purportedly covers at least ten million more people, without adding a single new doctor, but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that didn't read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, for which we'll be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government which has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke!!!!! 'What the hell could possibly go wrong?' | |||
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Do D'Arcy's stocks come without the checkering? IIRC Charlie Sisk uses McMillans w/out checkering. Out of curiosity can one "fill in" the cheesy checkering prior to painting? There are two types of people in the world: those that get things done and those who make excuses. There are no others. | |||
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I thought the checkering was quite tasteful.   | |||
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Oh the mountains, the mountains! Beautiful...and so is the checkering on the Echols...nice and almost too sharp, but well executed, nice cast off, feels great and mounts to the shoulder so well, looking right down the scope every time. Mine is the light carbon model and it weighs 1 lb. 5.8 oz without pad or swivel studs...the long, open grip fits my ham hands so much better than a High Tech stock I have on another rifle...hard to get, but certainly worth the wait! Can't wait to get it off to CAS II and then start shooting. You simply can't go wrong with the Echols! Arthur Olds | |||
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