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I have a standard length, large ring, small thread, .630” shank length action. Due to the shank length I assumed it was a Turk/Kale, but the thread relief cut is to the small thread major OD. I read the K. Kale action thread relief cut was done to large thread major OD. What do I have? http://www.facebook.com/profil...p?id=100001646464847 A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC 682-554-0044 Michael08TDK@yahoo.com | ||
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Is it standard length screw space AND standard length bolt? Send me an email, preferably with a picture or two. Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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I just pulled out 5 Turk 38 actions. I have removed the integral hand guard retaining lip from them all; this is a salient feature of the Turk. Shank length is no different than any other 98. .625 or so. Make sure you aren't measuring any of that lip that might still be there. Threads are of course, .980 OD, and yes, they are counterbored at the inner end, to major thread diameter. I don't know where you read that Turks were counterbored to 1.1; that would make no sense. You might be thinking about the small ring, large thread Kar98 in which they cut the thread relief larger than 1.1 and the rings get a bit thin on top. But I have used a lot of Turks. Does it have a serial number on the left side of the ring? It should, and they vary in style. You should post picture here so we can all learn.    | |||
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I guess the information I read was wrong. There is no serial number on the left side of the ring. Only on underside of action. Gun is actually an early German sporting rifle in 9.3x62…or rather was. Bore was pitted and we are rebarreling to 6.5x55. Standard bolt length and spacing. http://www.facebook.com/profil...p?id=100001646464847 A.M. Little Bespoke Gunmakers LLC 682-554-0044 Michael08TDK@yahoo.com | |||
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An early German sporting rifle would not likely have been a Turk 38 action. NM can speak to that but I don't know how that could happen. Early, as in pre 1930s, the Ottoman Empire, then after 1923, Turkey, was using all their rifles and making more. | |||
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The action is a Mauser Oberndorf commercial action, these were produced prior to WWI, standard screw spacing, standard bolt, large ring, small thread. Nathaniel Myers Myers Arms LLC nathaniel@myersarms.com www.myersarms.com Follow us on Instagram and YouTube I buy Mauser actions, parts, micrometers, tools, calipers, etc. Specifically looking for pre-WWII Mauser tools. | |||
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D, on those actions do you use the inner ring as the primary torque surface and the receiver face as secondary or does the barrel shoulder just "kiss" the receiver?
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Yes a good old WAFFENFABRIK MAUSER A-G OBENDORF a/n action. Have one of those sitting here in my lap, a full length, large ring, small thread receiver that uses a Standard bolt and guard screw spacing. This customers action has all matching numbers in the 57,xxx range Will be building up a 275 Rigby on it for the customer, open sights only with a cocking piece peep sight NO Scope what so ever, as he does not want to touch the factory Single Square Rear Bridge on the receiver J Wisner | |||
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Bob, yes, the Turk barrels are like any other 98; they bear only on the inner ring. The reason they wanted small threads is that they had a lot of 93 Mausers and this way they only had to make one barrel size for spares. JW, is the action you are talking about the OP's? Marked as described? | |||
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No the action is not the OP's. I have I have known this customer about 5 - 6 years, and he has had this SSB Obendorf action during this time frame. Finally My customer has got to a point in his life that he wanted to stop hunting with a UGLY gun. J Wisner | |||
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Ah, ok. I don't. blame him. At some point you want to impress your hunting buddies with a nice custom piece. Back to Bob's question, I cut 98 shanks to bear on the inner shoulder, and then make the shank length .003 longer so as to have the barrel touch the ring, but not bear too much. For cosmetic reasons. They don't have to touch at all, as in Mauser military barrels, don't. | |||
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I have read the same thing, I don’t recall where. Glad to see it's not true. | |||
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Are all the early Oberndorf commercial large ring actions small thread? ...and if not is there a way to tell which size threads it has without removing the barrel? | |||
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No. And if you remove all the markings, and the hand guard lip from the Turk, you can't tell them from any other 98 large ring either. | |||
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I agree with inner ring taking the pressure,,,outer ring touching... But..when I build a take down, I go through great pains to make equal pressure...the reason: The barrel is hand tight so all the support available is there to use. Make sense? years ago, I experimented with outer ring pressure only....then inner ring pressure...Could not tell one damn bit of difference in accuracy....but then again, I do not torque to 600 ft lbs! One time is not proof of anything. Just an observaion. | |||
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Yes it makes sense; it also does not make any difference where the barrel contacts. Inner, outer, both. | |||
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