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10 October 2007, 09:44
loud-n-boomer
German 1903 Spfld - Lots of Pictures
This showed up in the local gun shop. The store owner is not sure if he is going to sell it or keep it for himself. My guess is that it was built in the late 1940's for an American stationed in Germany. Unfortunately, I can not find any gunsmith's identifiers. The pictures do not do it justice, but how about some guesses as to value.

Dave













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10 October 2007, 10:04
maxbear
Wow, What a marvelous peice of craftsmanship. I really like that stock pattern. The combination of checkering and carving is wonderful.
This is definatley not something I see everyday.

Thanks for posting the photo's. thumb
10 October 2007, 11:35
vigillinus
A wall hanger .... low number action. Made between the World Wars. There are people who value these - not me.
10 October 2007, 16:37
DMB
I certainly admire those older sporters, and I'd love to have that rifle. But, I wouldn't pay a lot of money for it.

Don




10 October 2007, 16:50
jeffeosso
"cigerette rifle".. there's lots and lots of these floating around for mausers, and the springfield isn't THAT far off, in terms of the work that would be required...

i wouldn't pay alot for it, it's not my favorite.


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10 October 2007, 18:22
fla3006
Very interesting rifle. I like it alot but can't shed much light on it. Michael Petrov?


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10 October 2007, 18:26
rem721
quote:
Originally posted by vigillinus:
A wall hanger .... low number action. Made between the World Wars. There are people who value these - not me.


How do you figure its a low number receiver? All the Rock Islands over 285507 were of the new heat treat method. And the Springfields started with 800,001.

Nice rifle.
10 October 2007, 19:33
craigster
96403 < 285507.
10 October 2007, 19:41
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
96403 < 285507.

jumping jumping jumping jumping jumping

i spewed coffee over that...

the SN in clearly in a pic


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
10 October 2007, 19:57
rem721
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
the SN in clearly in a pic


Yup, and I clearly misread it, thinking it was in the 964,XXX range. A little early still.

Now if I could figure out what that abomination of a sentance you wrote means?
10 October 2007, 20:04
tin can
I believe there was a time, the 20's, maybe, when Springfields were sent to Germany to be sporterized, then returned to the customer here.

If so, perhaps this is one of them- the rear sight reminds me of such a thing.

Vague recollection...
10 October 2007, 20:43
22WRF
quote:
Originally posted by rem721:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
the SN in clearly in a pic


Yup, and I clearly misread it, thinking it was in the 964,XXX range. A little early still.

Now if I could figure out what that abomination of a sentance you wrote means?


Isn't sentence spelled s e n t e n c e?
10 October 2007, 20:56
rem721
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:


Isn't sentence spelled s e n t e n c e?


Silly boy, I was writing so Jeff could understand. Big Grin
10 October 2007, 21:09
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
quote:
Originally posted by rem721:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
the SN in clearly in a pic


Yup, and I clearly misread it, thinking it was in the 964,XXX range. A little early still.

Now if I could figure out what that abomination of a sentance you wrote means?


Isn't sentence spelled s e n t e n c e?


jumping jumping jumping jumping
it just gets better and better! after all, he REPLIED to my statement, but didn't understand it... now that's funny, i don't care who you are


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
10 October 2007, 21:40
Michael Petrov
My first impression of the rifle is "Buy It".I'm backed up with projects but let me do some digging. Could I see a picture of the buttplate please. Can you tell me the barrel date?

You might drop me a note at mjpetrov@acsalaska.

Check your PM's.
10 October 2007, 22:01
vigillinus
It would probably be easy enough to substitute a double heat treat action for that low number hand grenade and you would have a very nice rifle ..... unpolluted by the usual monstrous Germanic high mounted scope sight.
10 October 2007, 22:02
Marc_Stokeld
thumb

She looks like a very nice piece of history to me. I would proudly own her and shoot her with no worry at all. Hopefully your buddy will decide to sell her to you!
10 October 2007, 22:06
Nitroman
Nice, elegant rifle. The Europeans have always been spot on when stocking a rifle.


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10 October 2007, 22:14
fla3006
quote:
Michael Petrov: My first impression of the rifle is "Buy It".

Mine too. Back off about 10% on your loads and have fun. And don't mutilate the rifle with alterations.


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Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
11 October 2007, 05:30
loud-n-boomer
She has a home, she's too nice to not come home with me.


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11 October 2007, 08:59
rem721
Super cool. Nice score. Enjoy it.
15 October 2007, 23:22
fla3006
The rifle was made by Fred Adolph. See pages 113-118 of Michael Petrov's book. Very valuable.


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Shoot & hunt with vintage classics.
16 October 2007, 05:34
vigillinus
The secret is out !!!