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17 September 2007, 03:47
ForrestB
Cartridges you'd love to own
What rifle chambering would you want to own if it weren't so dang tough to justify?

For me, the 318 WR tops the list. Barrel, bullets, brass...just about everything is a problem. I'm going with a 338/06 instead.

Any other chamberings out there you wish were easier?


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17 September 2007, 03:53
z1r
I'd like a 10.75x68 on an original mauser sporter. Not that it would be hard to build one, I'd just like an original (that I could afford, lol).

I think the .338-06 is the more practical choice. Sometimes, nostalgia should take a back seat.




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17 September 2007, 03:54
fla3006
280Rem, 250-3000


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17 September 2007, 04:30
Skinner.
An 1885 High-Wall in 40-65.

And a Win. 94 in 38-55 with 26" octagonal barrel and a set trigger.

I've always meant to build the 38-55 but it's one of those projects that 'can wait'. Roll Eyes

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17 September 2007, 04:41
KSTEPHENS
25 souper
300-376 steyr
457 alaskan
375 winchester
17 September 2007, 05:21
tiggertate
25-35 In a Martini and a .244 H&H Magnum.


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17 September 2007, 05:25
Joel/AK
I'd have to say a 416rigby. Unfortunately up here buying reloading components is real hard without going mail order.

Someday I will say to hell with it and get one.


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17 September 2007, 05:28
Buliwyf
.450 Ackley
17 September 2007, 05:30
jimatcat
50/110 on a martini single shot.... octagon bbl... nice wood...


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17 September 2007, 05:35
jeffeosso
the ones i don't have, these three commercial rounds are the top of my list
280 (not AI)
338-06
10,75x68...

any/all of the above would be on a VERY light scoped rifle


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17 September 2007, 05:37
TC1
6.5X54 M/S 1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer
8X60 Type B Mauser
.257 Roberts Dakota model 10

coffee

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17 September 2007, 05:46
akalinin
.223 Remington
25-06
9.3x74R - in a double
375 H&H
404 Jeffrey
577 BPE - in a double, I think that would be a lot of fun!
17 September 2007, 06:06
Charles_Helm
300 H&H
577 Light Nitro
220 Swift


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17 September 2007, 06:35
Snellstrom
An original 400 Whelen on a Springfield action, saw one the other day by Griffin and Howe but I don't have that kind of money, I do have excellent taste though.
An original 1894 in 38/55 any version in decent shooter shape.
An 1886 Win in 40/82
A 71 Win .348
I also would like a period correct 35 Whelen sporter on a Springfield 03.
The list goes on and on.
17 September 2007, 06:57
333_OKH
quote:
Originally posted by ForrestB:
What rifle chambering would you want to own if it weren't so dang tough to justify?

For me, the 318 WR tops the list. Barrel, bullets, brass...just about everything is a problem. I'm going with a 338/06 instead.

Any other chamberings out there you wish were easier?


I have shot that one and it is great. For me it is the 256 Newton with the old bullet design to help it open up at long ranges.
17 September 2007, 08:10
lawndart
416 Barrett on a Barnard PL action, 32" barrel, titanium tubed suppressor on a heavy fill Robertson prone stock. Big assed S&B scope with an etched Horus Vision reticle.


17 September 2007, 08:25
gunmaker
50 BMG ! BOOM

Other than that,
35 Newton
30 Newton


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17 September 2007, 08:31
Hog Killer
450-400 3" DR

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17 September 2007, 08:51
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.218 Bee in a bolt rifle.


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17 September 2007, 09:01
Tex21
8x60S
8X68S
Both on Mausers.

.375 H&H
.458 Lott
Both on Enfields.

Am very slowly but surely making all four a reality. (Even if it might take a few years to get there)


Jason

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17 September 2007, 09:05
z1r
That 8x60S is getting closer by the minute. beer




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17 September 2007, 09:16
Michael Petrov
An original 38-Whelen made before 1923 on a 1903 Springfield action, Niedner barrel and Griffin stock.
17 September 2007, 09:24
Riodot
I love questions like this!!

.348 Winchester lever action
.300 H&H
.416 Taylor

Ruger #1 in:
9.3x74r
450/400

Oh well, I guess 4 out of 5 are possible.


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17 September 2007, 10:09
Zeke
375 Weatherby
458 Winchester or Lott
9.3x62


ZM
17 September 2007, 11:14
congomike
404 Jeffery
500 Jeffery
9.5x57
338/06 AI
17 September 2007, 11:19
Sambar 9.3
A 7mm-08 in one of the ultra light Kifaru Rambling Rifles.


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17 September 2007, 14:54
Wink
There are two cartridges designed in Southern Africa that I think are very attractive:

.458 African Express by Pierre Van der Walt
.400 Tembo designed by Kevin "Doctari" Robertson

I think they are the cat's meow but just too much trouble to put all the elements together to make either a simple rifle project. I'm surprised to see .458 Lott in some of the above lists since it is a factory cartridge with commercial rifles available for it. Ditto for the .416 Rigby.


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17 September 2007, 18:30
D Humbarger
250/3000 in a original Kurz Mauser action!



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17 September 2007, 18:50
DMB
6mm BR
6.5x55 Swede

Doug,
I have a very sweet 250-3000 on a Mauser actioned sporter with a stellar Walnut stock. I LOVE that chambering, and my rifle shoots extremely well too.

Don




17 September 2007, 19:02
larrys
6.5BR in a Micro-medallion or Model 7 action
45-70 1885 Browning Highwall.


Larry

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17 September 2007, 19:09
Blueprinted
A 416/376 Styer or a 450 Marlin on a short barreled Ruger.

6x47 Laupa on a 9lb Varmit rig
(in progress)

219 Donaldson Wasp on a #1
17 September 2007, 19:22
Masterifleman
.500 Jeffrey on WaffenFabrik Hein action
.470 Nitro Double from Butch Searcy (Just because I like to buy American).


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17 September 2007, 20:39
Burkhard
9,3 x 90
500 Jeffery

in Mauser action

6x63R Frères in a Blaser K95
17 September 2007, 20:40
Burkhard
Sorry I mean a

9,3x70
18 September 2007, 00:46
z375
70 miles from where I live, in the back of a gun rack....The cartridge I'd love to own in a rifle I've always wanted....an original .416 Rigby, just reading the inscription on receiver "Rigby's special .416 bore for Big Game" is enough to conjure visions.... Roll Eyes


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18 September 2007, 01:29
CMcDermott
Hard to get ammo brass reloading etc as well as expensive
400/350 Rigby double rifle
425 WR in a mauser action by Westley Richards
333 Jeffery rimless in a mauser action by Jeffery
12.5x70 Schuler in a Magnum Mauser by Schuler
(German version of 500 Jeffery)
Available but just too expensive until I win a lottery
50 2 1/2" Sharps
44/77 Remington Hepburn #3
500 N.E. double by any of the classic English makers; Rigby, H&H, WR, Jeffery etc
50-100 Winchester 1886
(50-100 used same case as 50-110, but heavier bullets and faster rifling twist)
18 September 2007, 02:22
ForrestB
Several of my "dream team" cartridges have mentioned:
I'd love to be able to justify having a pair of rifles in each of these combos

9.3X62 and a 404 Jeffery (not so problematic but hard to justify with all the 416s and 375s already in the safe)

333 Jeffery and 500 Jeffery (I'd have to enjoy trials and tribulations to build and feed these two)

350 Ribgy, 416 Rigby, and 450 Rigby (One out of three ain't bad, but how can I justify the difficulties inherent in building and loading for the smaller and larger Rigby?)

I'd like to own a classy light sporter in 221 Fireball or 218 Bee built on a properly-scaled bolt action. The cartridges aren't hard to work with but the whole concept is hard for me to justify. They wouldn't see much use in the field.

I need another 416 like I need a whole in the head but I'd sure like to try out a 416 Ruger. I just don't want to spend much money building a wildcat.


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18 September 2007, 02:42
rem721
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
Forrest

I want what you got. A matched pair of 7 x 57s (one for me and one for the wifey) on g.33/40 actions. I have the components. Whats real tough is the justification for the labor to have them built.


Not hard to justify at all. If you want it buy it. The end product assuming the right craftsman to build it will be a whole lot nicer than any mass produced or semi-custom rifle you will find for similar money.

quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:

By the way, I can't see why anyone would want a .338-06 when .338 WMs are so easy to get. (I have 2) If you don't want the big boom you can load them down very easily to .338-06 levels.


Well, for one, reduced charges in large cases aren't exactly conducive to accuracy. It can be done but often at the expense of lots of load development. If you find it hard to accept the .338-06 then neither should you like the .358 win, the .35 whelen, or the 9.3x62. I have shot lots of big bores so recoil isn't an issue but I like the .338-06 because rarely have I "needed" the extra power of the .338 WM.
18 September 2007, 02:53
rem721
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
"not hard to justify at all"

believe me, on what I make, it is. Thats 4 or 5 years of work.


I look at it as a matter of priorities. You'd be surprised what the avarage individual can free up once you look at all the things you spend money on. They may not be extravgant but all those small expenditures add up quickly. Besides, most smiths won't finish your project till at least two years down the line anyway. Big Grin

I'd rather have one quality gun than ten mediocre guns. Quality does not necessarily mean you have to spend $10K per. You could get both those G33/40's built very nicely for less than that. Those old rifles we all drool over, well, most had rather plain wood but were well executed.
18 September 2007, 03:11
TC1
quote:
Originally posted by 22WRF:
REM 21

Yea, I look at it as a matter of priorities too. Either I eat for the next 4-5 years or I have a couple of rifles built. Big Grin


Easy choice, buy the guns.

Terry


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