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How To Improve The Accuracy Of A M 77 .358 Winchester?

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24 April 2003, 06:17
Savage99
How To Improve The Accuracy Of A M 77 .358 Winchester?
A friend has an old Ruger 77 in .358 Winchester. The rifle has never grouped well but he has taken a lot of game over many years with the gun and it has sentimental value. The rifle was sent to Ruger's smith a while ago and the barrel was shortened to 20" and of course recrowned and the accuracy did not improve.

The thinking is to either send it to a "Douglas" or "PacNor" and have a new SS top quality barrel installed and the action trued or to have a local smith do it. Money is not a problem. He hunts all over, has other rifles and uses this .358 for Northeastern woods hunting.

The barrel contour and length is not selected. Of course a very long and heavy barrel is not appropiate. Most factory .358 Win barrels are about .560" at the muzzle which is a 1/8" wall thickness. Suggestions are welcome.
24 April 2003, 07:10
HunterJim
IIRC that barrel would have been one of the $7 wonders that Ruger procured outside, so it is a major candidate for replacement. If it was my rifle I would go with a chrome-moly replacement. Of course installing a new barrel would include some tidying up with the action and the bedding.

jim dodd
24 April 2003, 07:56
bobvthunter
Savage 99,

If he wants to accurize it he could always sell it and buy a Remington M700!!!

Sorry, I couldn't resist! [Big Grin]

Bob
24 April 2003, 09:19
.358
I will swap him my new 77 MKII which I had rebarrelled to .358 with a shieln bbl. 22" it shoots great.
24 April 2003, 15:29
Savage99
.358,

Why would you swap?

By the way what contour is that barrel?
25 April 2003, 02:15
steve y
For that lovely tang safety, of course!

Tell your buddy he has a jewel and to reflect upon how long his shots have been and if the rifle's accuracy is insufficient at those ranges.

My old M77 has a shortened barrel and wood stock and it is sub-MOA.

It is fully glassed, though, and that is what I would try after floating the barrel and before installing a new one.
25 April 2003, 05:02
Savage99
Just got an email back and he is not nearly as excited about his .358 as I am! He said he will think about it. I got him prices, name of a local smith that installs premium barrels the right way etc.

He said "I will just take the 30/06 as it groups fine"

Maybe it's the money after all!
25 April 2003, 08:30
.358
Savage, I would trade because mine is a little heavy for me. It has a shilem #3 contour. But it is a moot point now as a guy traded me out of it this morning. Haven't got a conformation yet . I've never seen a .358 that wouldn't shoot with just about any load at least all the ones I have had shot extremely well. By the way do you know anyone who will rebore a rifle with breaking the bank ? I had the latye Dick Nichols do a couple for me and was completely satisfied . Only cost 175.00 !