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Burgess 09 Peruvian
12 June 2007, 05:08
fla3006Burgess 09 Peruvian
This showed up in the mail today. Took awhile but I am extremely pleased. Thanks Systeme 98!
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12 June 2007, 05:16
30 Caliber Mag FanBeautiful!!! What caliber do you intend to build, etc.?
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12 June 2007, 05:30
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12 June 2007, 06:07
Bill SovernsFantastic!
12 June 2007, 06:08
fla3006Plans are for 09 Argentine magazine with Wisner straddle floorplate, 7x57 barrel with NOS military carbine rear sight, banded ramp front, barrel band sling stud, British "express" style stock made from a Denli Turkish blank I got from TC1. Strictly a traditional open sight rifle similar to prewar British or Continental Mausers.
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12 June 2007, 06:48
Roland1Congratulation, very nice.
Roland
12 June 2007, 07:15
ForrestBWonder of wonders!
That will be one sweet rifle. I just don't trust my eyes enough to build an open sight only rifle, but I love the look and feel of them. I can't wait to see this one come together.
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12 June 2007, 09:02
Hog KillerForrest, are you going to bring it Sat., for us to drool over?
Keith
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12 June 2007, 09:15
AtkinsonHe is the best.
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12 June 2007, 09:16
fla3006Sure Keith, I'll bring it! Are future 7x57s allowed as long as accompanied by 375 or larger?
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That is one beautiful action. I've never seen a Peruvian in person but the pictures you've posted of them in the past have alway's floored me. I love that charger hump! Once you get that thing barreled up and sitting in that stunning piece of walnut from Denli it's going to be something to see.
Terry
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Forrest,
Can you give any details as to how it is finished? It looks great, nice soft sheen without the obscene buffed look. I would love to know how you do that.
Also may I ask, what is the length of the front ring? I have a near identical action with slightly different lineage (also barrelled as 7x57) and am wondering if specifying Peruvian inletting would work for the stock.
Todd
12 June 2007, 17:20
fla3006Todd, nice to hear from you! My action was pitted, military configuration. Mr. Burgess tig welded the pits, replicated an Oberndorf sporter bolt handle, surface ground and polished the rest. I don't know how he obtains the results, probably uses medium 240 or 320 grit. The ring is 1.875" long, there are several variations of this action, the 03 Turk, 1910 Costa Rican and Serb, some others as well, designed by a Mr. Lowe I believe Tom said. Described on page 150 of Ludwig Olson's book.
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Originally posted by fla3006:
Todd, nice to hear from you! My action was pitted, military configuration. Mr. Burgess tig welded the pits, replicated an Oberndorf sporter bolt handle, surface ground and polished the rest. I don't know how he obtains the results, probably uses medium 240 or 320 grit. The ring is 1.875" long, there are several variations of this action, the 03 Turk, 1910 Costa Rican and Serb, some others as well, designed by a Mr. Lowe I believe Tom said. Described on page 150 of Ludwig Olson's book.
There is a Peruvian made by FN that has that high charger hump. But it has the regular 98 front ring.
12 June 2007, 18:07
.366torquequote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
This showed up in the mail today. Took awhile but I am extremely pleased. Thanks Systeme 98!
Mine is very similar except for the raised "flange" under the extractor blade.
WOW!!
That is a beauty.
Your rifle will be something to behold when finished, and in the right chambering too.
Post some pix when it is complete.
Don
12 June 2007, 23:54
rem721Fla3006,
Nice work there by Mr. Burgess.
Instead of that military carbine sight why not one of these early mauser sporter sights. I saw it on another page and took the liberty of linking to it.
13 June 2007, 01:45
fla3006Not sure where I would find one of those sporter sights. The military carbine sight is essentially the same except it has a band, also made at Oberndorf. The more logical choice to some might be some sort of folding express rear sights or quarter rib but I thought I would go a different route this time:
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13 June 2007, 01:49
fla3006The rifle at the bottom was my inspiration for using the military rear sight, also the high charger on the 1909:
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Those are both gorgeous rifles, but it seems like they have the trigger pretty far forward in the trigger guard for some reason.
13 June 2007, 02:03
Dago RedI installed a Burgess safety on an argentine of mine once, same beautiful polish job. I might be wrong but I think he uses a buffer in polishing as well. but it takes lots of skill and practice to be able to do that right.
Red
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Originally posted by 22WRF:
Those are both gorgeous rifles, but it seems like they have the trigger pretty far forward in the trigger guard for some reason.
Funny, I have rifles with the trigger located more rearward and also located just like those two pics. It never seemed to bother me one way or another. I also like to use the original two stage trigger on my hunting rifles. Something many folks would cringe at. I just dehorn them so they are slick.
The sight above is actually one of mine. Here is a pic of the other side.
I suppose the main difference between it and the carbine sight is the band and perhaps more important the addition of windage adjustment. I'd imagine one could add the windage adjustment to the carbine sight if so motivated. To me, the biggest practical consideration would be barrel contour. The military style sight is designed to be placed on a segment of barrel that is parallel while the commercial sight can be placed on a tapered section of barrel. I think with a little imagination that carbine sight could be put to good use.
truth be told, it was the bottom rifle in that pic that motivated me to find that sporter sight. I welded a bolt handle in trade for it. I also got the front sight.
Oddly enough, those sights are destined for this action:
Before pic with new handle.
Action after cleanup, well, except for some sawdust I left on the right rail.
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13 June 2007, 02:18
Bill MeyerI believe the sight with the 200 meter markings probably came off a .22 rimfire. Still a nice sight. Wished I had one, got another one in your pocket that you aren't using? Bill
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Originally posted by Bill Meyer:
I believe the sight with the 200 meter markings probably came off a .22 rimfire. Still a nice sight. Wished I had one, got another one in your pocket that you aren't using? Bill
Bill, that may well be. It will be easy enough to adjust the curve of the sight to regulate it. I wish I had more but truthfully, I will be switching to my cocking piece peep sights on future projects. Easier for my eyes.
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Thanks for the measurements Forrest. Again, that is a beautiful action - if you model it after the lower rifle in the pic, it will be killer.
In addition to the action like yours with an L-W barrel, I have a nice 1912 Steyr with one of the 19" stepped NOS 7x57 barrels screwed in. I am planning on mounting pseudo-square bridges on it (actually blanks that will function as scope base spacers, with thinned, flat bottomed Leupold QR mounts on top of them) and an Argentine carbine rear sight which fits nicely on that barrel. In a Mannlicher stock of course. Maybe I will post some pics when I get time.
Z,
Your action looks like mine - 1903 Turk? Or a Peruvian converted to 30-06. Very nice. I notice you thinned the tang like a commercial Mauser - did you do this by hand with a file, or on a mill? Any chance of a pic?
Todd
13 June 2007, 08:28
Hog Killerquote:
Originally posted by fla3006:
Sure Keith, I'll bring it! Are future 7x57s allowed as long as accompanied by 375 or larger?
Yes, when in the company of a big bore.
Keith
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18 July 2007, 06:58
jeffeossoWOW Forrest,
I missed this... dang that looks GREAT