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Restocking my plastic-fantastic XP100, but have discovered my Brownells release agent has solidified (gell'd actually).
To save me buying a whole new kit, can anyone recommend a fool-proof substitute.
I do want to be able to get the action back out of the stock, so only options that you have had first hand experience with please.
 
Posts: 41 | Location: new zealand | Registered: 15 November 2001Reply With Quote
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If they sell Johnson Paste Wax where you are, try it. Works great and it's not expensive! I've also used it when I make bbl. vise bushings. They almost fall out of the mold.

Gimpy

 
Posts: 179 | Location: No. Idaho | Registered: 23 June 2000Reply With Quote
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You can just buy the release agent from Brownnells. I have use other stuff too but I really only trust the release agent the comes with the bedding. Having brought a rifle that someone didn't use it on I can tell you it is a real pain to undo. There are times to be cheap and other time it very much pays to use the best.
 
Posts: 19735 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
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To expand on Gimpy's suggestion just a bit...

Thin the wax with mineral spirits or paint thinner. It dissolves the wax nicely. Paint it on, that way you know that you've got it in all the cracks & crevices. Give it a few minutes to let the thinner evaporate, leaving the wax behind.

It's all I use, and has *never* failed me.

 
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The aerosol release agent from Brownell's is excellent and easy to apply.
 
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Belive it or not Pam cooking spray,have used it many times and never had any problems and since its a spray you are sure to get it into all the nooks and crannys. Easy clean up also. Was turned unto it by a gunsmith.
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I had heard that Pam works, but I was never brave enough to try it!
 
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The only time I've ever had problems was when I used the blue stuff that comes with the bedding kits. Then I got smart (and cheap) and tried the Johnson wax thing. As G.R. above said, try it, you'll like it.
 
Posts: 179 | Location: No. Idaho | Registered: 23 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I use Devcon Release Agent XD 55, which is sprayed on from a pressure paak tin.

However, I don't know if that name is used in America.

Mike

 
Posts: 7206 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Count one more vote for Johnson's Paste Wax here.

Not only does it work perfectly as a release agent, but there is no need to remove it. In fact, I put a couple of coats of it on all the steel parts of my rifles as rust protection. A small precaution that helps make sure you never get any rust on the barrel or action covered by the stock.

An additonal benefit of using paste wax applied with a cloth is that the wax will build up in screw and pin holes and other crevices and prevent locking the action to the wood. The spray on types don't build up in these crevices like wax applied with a rag.

jpb

 
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Kiwi, sorry I didn't notice your locale at first. You'd best use what's available to you as shipping could be a bitch. Could you enlighten me as to the meaning of "pee-a-rah rawhor te-te nooey"? Or along those lines. My little buddy from Gisborn says it whenever I piss him off. I gather it's Mauri(?) and is along the lines of "features of a face ache". Have a good summer.
 
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Use methylated spirits to thin down your gelled release agent.

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Pete

 
Posts: 541 | Location: Mokopane, Limpopo Province, South Africa | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
<Jeff S>
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Johnson Paste wax...I use it with with favorite bedding compound...Micro-bed!
 
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I have bedded a thousand rifles in Johnsons past wax and shoe wax...Brownells stuff works also, as does the blue stuff, but you have to put it on properly and not damage it prior to sinking into the glass. A good coat of Johnson on top of the blue stuff makes it break cleanly from the metal when cured...

I have had to repair a couple of guns that stuck with Pam, I don't know if it was poorly applied or the glass moved it away from the metal. I used it awhile but that bothered me so I don't use it any more..

Actually I suspect any wax will work..

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Posts: 42226 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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I found that you can use face mask (the stuff your wife or girlfriend uses to clean her face) and just add a little water to it. This is exactly the same stuff that Brownell's uses except they don't put in any fragrance to make it smell pretty.
 
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I like aerosol case lube. Hornady,in particular..........
 
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Johnsons paste wax. Apply with a stiff brush, buff it off and apply a second coat for insurance.

As mentioned by jpb, it is the best rust preventive you can use for metal underneath the wood.

 
Posts: 1551 | Location: North Texas | Registered: 11 February 2001Reply With Quote
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Trewax. It is a pastewax polish suggested to me as a release agent on another forum and the stuff works great. Put on thin coat, let it dry completely, apply second coat, let it dry and apply a third coat. I've only glassbedded two stocks (both on Ruger Mark II) and the jobs came out excellent. I bought mine at a home improvement place. It is also one hell of a hard wax polish for the wood stock after you bed the thing ... Tom Purdom
 
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Synair's Synlube 1000. Has never let me down. I think its used in the pottery hobby industry. Darrell Holland uses it also. sure-shot
 
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Originally posted by Daryl Elder:
Kiwi, sorry I didn't notice your locale at first. You'd best use what's available to you as shipping could be a bitch. Could you enlighten me as to the meaning of "pee-a-rah rawhor te-te nooey"? Or along those lines. My little buddy from Gisborn says it whenever I piss him off. I gather it's Mauri(?) and is along the lines of "features of a face ache". Have a good summer.


Thanks to all who replied. I will try to find some of the Wax as suggested in the posts.
Daryl, I will try to get someone a little bit more knowledeable than I in the maori language to translate, and if printable, will advise just what your gisborne friend is saying.

 
Posts: 41 | Location: new zealand | Registered: 15 November 2001Reply With Quote
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If you'd like,(and can't find it) e-mail me with pertinent info and I'll send you a can of Johnson Wax, I have a couple. If all you ever use it for is action bedding, it'll last you a lifetime.
 
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