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It seems Blackburn bottom metal for a Mauser M98 may not ever be available. I'm thinking about a blind magazine bottom metal set up for mine, since I don't really need a floor plate that opens for my kind of hunting. Does anybody make nice blind magazine bottom metal for a Mauser 98? _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | ||
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You can make your own from an existing mag box. And Sunny hill makes some nice guard bows. What caliber are you looking to do? -Don | |||
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Hi William How are things with you? to your question many mauser made sporting rifles simply used the Military bottom metal that used the bullet meplat to open the floor plate, even a number of original .275 Rigbys used this method, you could probably easily obtain a surplus military mag box which would be based on the 8 x 57 length round quite easily. Maybe the gunpart corporation (Numrich Arms) in the US have the very item in stock. If it is for the .375 length you seek then things may be a little more difficult. Ted Blackburn makes superb metalwork but it is practically unavailable, Sunny Hill products are also excellent, I think they make a Mauser Oberndorf type box with trigger bow release. My own 98 action uses the military floorplate with the release activated by the bullet meplat and works just fine. What is the calibre you seek to use it for? Jonathan | |||
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Wink, PM Z1R who posts here. He is building me a 338-06 with a blind magazine...I can't remember what he is using though for the mag box. Floor Plates have never matter that much to me any way. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Why not use a nicely reshaped 1909 Argentine bottom metal with a straddle floorplate added. | |||
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Caliber is 9.3 X 62, rebarrelled from an 8 X 57, and I've got the original bottom metal and it works. But I would like to replace it with something a little more elegant. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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This is what James Anderson (AKA Gunmaker), and I am sure many other Makers as well, can do with a 1909 Bottom Metal. They can be lengthened as well. Looks pretty elegant to me.  You can see photos of one that Gunmaker lengthend for the 9.3X64 Cartridge here. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9411043/m/932108278  | |||
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Very nice examples of some very fine work. I don't know why I want a blind magazine, other than I don't think the hinged floorplate really adds any vital features for hunting. It's just that all the nice examples of really good gunsmithing I've seen are on hinged floor plates. Looks like I'll have to go for a custom piece made from the ground up. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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Wink, Bear in mind that most blind magazine applications will have only a trigger bow. No bottom metal as we are used to seeing it. A bow with the rear tang screw and typically a wood screw to secure the front. Then a pillar mounted screw to retain the action up front. The early FN style bottom metal has what I consider a nicely contoured bow, and the original floorplate relase (bullet tip). | |||
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Hello Wink I also think that a blind magazine is a very elegant solution for a hunting rifle. I would be thinking "shotgun style bow", somewhat similar to that used on the Brno Model 21 etc with the action secured with a pillar mounted screw both fore and aft. Cheers - Foster | |||
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Wink, The shotgun style bow as Tentman suggested would work well and can be salvaged off an old military bottom metal and revamped as Rem 721 suggested. They do look very nice on a gun and are not often seen and that does not make them undesireable as some might suggest. That kind of approach will save you a bundle of money on an item in the case of hinged bottom metal that has no function for you. | |||
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