Hi Folks,
Something, either the recoil(?), Backwash from the Muzzlebrake(?) or the weight of the heavy 30MM tube scope [ A Millet 6-25x56. Please keep the hisses and catcalls as well as the insults about my brainpower and lineage to a minimum ] ] shook the Redfield rings and Leupold bases loose.

Besides screwing up my day at the range, it skinned the hell out of the scope [I know , thank God its only a Millet ]

What mounts are the best for a beast such as this .300 RUM. And yes I do plan on mounting a Leupold on it before hunting time

Thanks for the input,
HBB

[ 09-11-2003, 08:18: Message edited by: DaggaRon ]

Talley

Ruger-integral, or with Talley base

CZ-integral

Warne Maxima

Leupold QRW (new and improved version only, with square recoil shoulder mating with the cross slotted base)

And even the lowly standard Weaver ring is good, especially if used with three or four rings on a picatinny: as good as anything and better than most, when used with a steel Weaver style base.

Badger with three or four rings on a picatinny.

JB Weld the bases to the receiver. Low heat from a torch will easily remove it if ever needs to be un-done. 8X40 screws never hurt anything.

Use a clear or black silicone adhesive inside the rings to grip the scope, even if rings are lapped to perfection.

[ 09-11-2003, 08:20: Message edited by: DaggaRon ]

I have leupold rings and bases on both of my 300ultras and they haven't loosened or moved.I don't have muzzlebrakes on either rifle.My scopes are a lot lighter than yours though.

[ 09-11-2003, 08:43: Message edited by: stubblejumper ]

The Ruger rings work well on a No. 1 in .45/70 that produces 55 Ft/Lb of recoil, with Leupold 2.5X-8X scope mounted.

My .300 RUM blew the back ring mount apart on mine. It was a Burris Signature mount and Signature rings. It failed at the windage screw. Called Burris and they replaced it with a double dovetail mount and ring set. No problems since. I highly recommend the double dovetail setup on a heavy recoiling rifle.

bowhuntr

Years ago we used to sell Weatherby rifles. Sold a lot of 300 Wby's in # 1 barrel contours. The customers all wanted either 3x9 Leupolds or 6x18 Redfields. The only mounts we could get to hold was the Weaver top mounts.

Also after 1980 when Mount St Helen's blew her top, we used the ash instead of rosin between the ring halves. They will not move at all then.

Shortly after that then Burris came out with some double sided strips with their rings which also helped.

You want a mount which both of the rings are dovetailed or clamped to the bases to prevent movement.

Jim Wisner

I aways liked the Weaver detachable top mount for it's function as well. Weaver makes a mount called the 4X4 which works like the regular top mount but has two bands on top. It may hold a little better and it looks cool. A friend likes them for his big boomers.

Weaver also makes an expensive mount out of solid steel called the Grand Slam. I don't like this mount as the over 180 degree top ring seems to mark the scope for me as it does not spring open like the regular top mount.

I use Scotch double stick tape on the scope rings to prevent slipping. I am not positive it's the best but it works up to .375 with small scopes for me.

Funny no one mentioned Conetrol rings...I have never had one slip ever on heavy recoiling rifles.

Many of us are only interested in rugged QD mounts so that a quick switch to iron sights or backup scope is possible if the scope itself ever gives up the ghost, such as reticle breaks, etc.

Gotta agree, the lowly Weaver standard ring, with the square cross-section cross slot screw, is as good as any and better than most, though has no snob appeal. Just a little nuisance to get the reticle square when cinching down on the scope.

Sounds like a job for Leupold Dual Dovetails. You can tear the bases off of the receiver but nothing short of a hacksaw or cutting torch is going to separate the rings from the bases.

Here's my potential( read that low cost) remedy for the scope problem:

Weaver bases with the screws dabbed with the blue non-permanent loc-tite.
With
Millet Angle Lock mounts carefully and evenly snugged up around a Leupold VX-I with a #4 Reticle and VXIII click adjustments fitted by Premier Reticle.

Think it will work?

If this set-up fails. I'll spring for some Talley Mounts.

Thanks for the input,

HBB

Leupold dual dovetails. Forget the windage adjustable base setup. The weaver/millet setup should work but is ugly, costs more, and is not any stronger than the dual dovetails. Talleys are good and I have them on my rifles that get QD setups, but they're not any stronger than the dual dovetails either.

http://www.eaw.de/English/english.html

the best

hi i have leupold bases and rings on my 338wm . they have not moved yet .i would say i shot over 1000 rounds since than . i also used loctite on the screws . Bob

Millet rings are O.K. for 22 rimfire rifles.

They cast their screws. When a millet screw breaks, they reveal their crumbly cores.

EAW's are nice, and only cost about $600 USD, but they leave me cold for other reasons, like too high and hard to come by.

Dual dovetails are stout, but not QD, and I have had a dovetail break off a Leupold ring while installing it, sort of like the M700 bolt handle that comes off in your hand. Surely a defective part, but I'll bet they are cast then final shaped and polished, like Millet screws.

I like QD's on any rifle, so as to facilitate a quick switch to prezeroed alternate sights, when the primary scope goes to hades, as can happen to any scope with a tumble down a mountainside, etc.

The EAW mounts and their backup will only run you how much?$?

Others can and may work but with Badgers you KNOW they will work. I have used and lapped a lot of the others mention and none get to the build quality in my opinion as the Badgers. A lap will tell you a lot about rings

I like the Burris Signatures with either the dual dovetail or the steel Weaver base. Either one is bullet proof and no lapping required.

Gabe

The Millet ring, Weaver base, and Leupold scope combo worked fine at the range yesterday. Now if it will just stay that way.

Thanks for the help,
HBB

Hope it works out for you , but I would not have much faith in the Millet rings for a heavy kicker. IMO , they are not nearly as strong as plain old weaver rings ........

I would also scrap the Millet rings, would use the Weaver bases and rings ( steel).