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11 November 2010, 02:49
JD Miller
What is it?
Small ring m98, " MANUFACTURE D'ARMS DEL'ETAT "?

unusual bottom metal, argi type lever on bolt release







11 November 2010, 03:25
tin can
Belgian-

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11 November 2010, 05:35
JD Miller
Ok... large or small barrel shank? Cool



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11 November 2010, 06:17
tin can
Oh, skip it.
11 November 2010, 06:24
JD Miller
oh skip it yourself



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11 November 2010, 06:29
cal30 1906
I am certain it is a 1891 argentine mauser originally chambered for the 7.65x53 decent caliber but the 1909 is far better as actions go. I might be wrong though...



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11 November 2010, 06:51
JD Miller
Cal30 , sure looks like a 1891 cept that m98 bolt shroud/and safety



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12 November 2010, 05:13
Toomany Tools
I believe that is an 1889 Belgium artillery carbine which was based on the 1891 Argentine, but it's been modified with a later shroud and safety. The 1936 mod seems closest.


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12 November 2010, 09:57
kcstott
Lets see here. push feed, no thumb cut, Argie bottom metal, Tangent rear sight,

That's one weird rifle. But it definitely looks like a modified 1891


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12 November 2010, 16:02
J.D.Steele
1889 Belgians came first, had barrel jackets like the 1888 Commission Rifles. Design changed to no bbl jacket for the 1891 Argies with same bolt and chambering. Original threaded striker was a PITA and so, apparently, some later 1898 parts were adapted when the old 1889s were modernized in the '30s. It's easy to adapt the later Mauser strikers to the early 1889/91 bolts.
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12 November 2010, 18:27
Marc
I have a couple 30-06 barrels I bought from Numrich that were supposed to be 1889 Belgian barrels. Shank diameter is 1" and 12TPI. They can be fit to small ring actions by cutting the threads a bit deeper.