I know this is mostly a rifle forum but maybe there are some pistol guy out there.

Are there any legal frames with witch to build up a gun in California? Failing that can a guy do an 80% frame without a lot of wrangling with the authorities?

My reading of the law says no. Am I missing something? This seems stupid since you can by an identical pre made gun.

If you find one already in the state, then you can buy it. Person-to-person is fine, you just can't import bare frames.

I have no experience with 60% or 80% frames.

The best California information is on Calguns.net. Say "Hi" if you get over there.

Handguns marketed and sold in California have to be certified by the Attorney General’s office. To become certified they must meet certain safety requirements and have passed certain safety tests.

Most of the larger manufacturers have their’s certified and there is an appropriate increase in price for this.

If you were to build one from a frame you would have to get it certified for it to be legal.

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Originally posted by fyj:
Handguns marketed and sold in California have to be certified by the Attorney General’s office. To become certified they must meet certain safety requirements and have passed certain safety tests.

Most of the larger manufacturers have their’s certified and there is an appropriate increase in price for this.

If you were to build one from a frame you would have to get it certified for it to be legal.

To submit a sample for certification you must be a licensed importer or manufacturer.

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Originally posted by Fjold:

quote:

Originally posted by fyj:
Handguns marketed and sold in California have to be certified by the Attorney General’s office. To become certified they must meet certain safety requirements and have passed certain safety tests.

Most of the larger manufacturers have their’s certified and there is an appropriate increase in price for this.

If you were to build one from a frame you would have to get it certified for it to be legal.

To submit a sample for certification you must be a licensed importer or manufacturer.

That’s probably so.

Thanks,

It is an outragious law. I can buy a 80 serise 1911, there are many makers. I coul build up an identical gun from the frame made by one of those makers if I lived on another state. Since I live in the PRK I can not buy the frame. One is legal and one is not based on a sham safety test of a representitive gun submitted by the manufacturer of the completed gun on the frame I want to buy. My build gun is the same as the tested gun. If the manufacturer changes any detail of the gun, sight for instance, it needs to be resubmitted for testing again.

This is a law designed to limit the access to handguns, nothing more. Funny thing is the guys that make cheap cast junk semiauto pistols are approved. Go figure.

Upon retirement I am fleeing this asylum.

PO'ed in the PRK

For a clarification on what FYJ said and Fjold, you can do a private party transfer using an FFL licensee of a non ceritfied gun, but a gun shop cannot sell a non ceritified gun.

The test wasnt' about safety, it was to cut down on the number of guns available in California. It is just like outrageous taxes on cigarettes (I don't smoke them). If they can't actually get something made illegal because there are enough red blooded americans to block them they just restrict it out of existence.

Red