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Hopefully I can get a little help here. Ebony is getting very hard to find anymore. I talked with one of my suppliers, and they said that less and less lumber is coming from Africa, and ebony will be getting very hard to get. I have used the African Blackwood, which is also very dark, but you can see more grain in it. I was wondering if anyone knew of any other alternative I can use. I need something that I can get 3" wide and 2" thick. The blackwood comes in 2"x2" pieces. Please let me know if you can lend a hand.

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Try looking on eBay. That's where I got my last stick of ebony (2x2x12). It was a very good specimen, very dark (no brown streaks), dense and no problems with splits. I think I ordered it from Cookwoods. They sell a lot of exotic hardwoods on eBay.
 
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Does it need to be a wood of the same color type? I mean you are wanting to stay real dark right?

I know that I bought a piece of ebony from richard's microfit.

I have been thinking that a piece of purple heart would make good tip and cap on a blond stock. hmmmm......

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I do need something dark, as close to ebony as I can, only the hard part is the need of the 3" wide piece. I will check on ebay, and thanks for your help.
 
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Died ironwood - the eastern ironwood that is a deciduous understory tree is very white but very grainless and can be died/stained black.

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Dakota Arms use to sell what they called
Dakota-X, Faux Ebony. This was walnut
that was color-pressure treated to match Ebony.
I think this was what they used on a lot of
there rifles.
Might be worth a call.

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Just called Cook- They have one piece 2x3x36". One left. I can use that for now, but if I need something like this again, I might have to use something different.

Brent- How stable is the ironwood? Does it have a higher or lower oil content than ebony?

James- That is very helpful. Maybe I will give them a call also.

Thanks again.

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It was called Ebon-X, Not Dakota-X.
Pushed the button befor reading

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Originally posted by VV Mark:

Brent- How stable is the ironwood? Does it have a higher or lower oil content than ebony?

Thanks again.

I don't know how stable it really is, but my gues from looking at quite a few pieces of it is that it may be quite good - that might not be quite good enough.

It does not have a high oil content so it would have to be finished, and not just polished.

I've never actually done this. I have heard about it from a number of folks that seem to know something. I believe this may be a regular replacement for piano keys and such. But ask around first.

Brent
ps. Look into Sonoran Desert Ironwood - it will not be black but it is high oil, it will polish like ebony, it looks better (shows some beautiful grain), is dense as hell, and overall, much more attractive. Here is an example:
http://www.iastate.edu/~codi/PGrip/pistolgrip.html

BTW, anyone having a piece of this stuff that is 3"x3" by 4" give me a holler, I'm in the market for it.
 
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Brits and Germans traditionaly used buffalo horn. It's actually better than ebony as it's stability is unmatched. Most knife maker supply houses carry it.

I just bought a full horn for about 50 quid. I know I will be able to get at least 10 forend tips (sporter configuration stock) out of it. Plus the left overs will be good for handgun grips and/or knife scales.

By the way, my preference is for a black forend tip. Anything other than a black material would not be considered traditional. Doesn't mean that another color wouldn't work. It just won't be classic.

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I have rosewood tip and cap on a walnut stock and they look pretty good together. I have seen buffalo horn used before on knives and pipes, it did look good, I hadn't thought of that for stocks. good idea.

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If you still want Ebony, look up Eisenbrand Inc. at www.eisenbran.com; they offer 2" thick lumber and even bowl blanks in Gibon Ebony, which is the solid black type. They offer a all the woods mentioned in this thread and some other exotics. Great company.

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