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What do you like for scope mounts for this small ring round top? I have seen one with Conetrol's that was ok but I would prefer something from the rifles era.

A mount that would detach easily makes sense as the rifle has express irons and a low comb that will allow them to be seen. A mount with high bases might block the view.

I looked at EWA's site but could not make out much of what they have.

Help please.


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PLEASE don't drill the receiver!


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I understand but it's already drilled!



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There aren't too many mounts out there that will allow you to use the factory sights with the scope removed.

The EAW swing-lock bases do have a sight groove down the center, but I'm not sure it is deep enough. You could order a set of bases (no rings) at first, and return them if they don't work. Buy the rings if they do. I do not recall if they make a rear base that works with a charging hump.

The other option, and I'm having great difficulty typing it, is to use Weaver original style bases. The center is basically a hollow groove, with high side rails.
 
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Beware, besides fitting the bridges you have a bolt clearance issue to consider. You will need very high rings to clear the rear of most scopes, even period ones.


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All true.

I would put a Leu Compact on if necessary. The ocular is only 1.375" on them.

I "like" Weaver bases but this rifle deserves something better.


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Warne or Talley bases and high QD rings.


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Why not contact Burgess? Tom's mounts are really nice and well made. I'm sure he has some good ideas.

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Savage 99,

I saw that on the auction site and what intrested me was it looks like there are two different screw sizes in the front ring? I have a Banner Mauser thats drilled on the front ring with one 8-40 and one 6-48. Makes for finding bases difficult but Bob Ray at Buehler helped me out.
Buehlers been around awhile and although its not QD does make a nice classic set up.
Good luck with the Brno.

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JOHAN,

Thanks for the tip on Burgess. I am looking for something special but an authentic period mount would do. I just cannot figure out the EAW products so far. I think I have to try harder.

These rifles present a number of mounting diffuculties. The later 21h's and 22f's with the flat bridges add another problem when their neat mount is used and that's that the one piece mount hits the turret body on most scopes.

On all of them the express sights are too close to the end of the front ring for most scopes. Thus a scope with a long objective bell just will not go. Another is that the bolt handle while flat does protrude at it's root and thus it does not clear normal eyepieces without high mounts.

From what I know at present the Leupold 3-9 Compact has the best combinations of features in particular for the flat top models using the orginal mount.


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On the 21H, the 2.5 to 8 Leupold works fine with Burgess rings. The front of the front bell mounts just behind the rear sight with the sight flipped down. I may have a photo of mine here somewhere. The problem is, finding a set of those rings or getting in line for Tom to make them. They are occasionally offered for sale but bought fast. There was a knockoff of them made by a metalsmith but he is no longer in business.


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The picture of the two screw sizes has been a major concern. I am sure it's why the rifle sat on auctions for a long time. The rifle is on the way to me and I have not seen it in person and as you can tell the picture above is from the auction.

I am not a collector in the pure sense. I buy things that I like and use them for the most part. I am also attracted to nice factory rifles that are modified so that they would be of more use to me. Thus I took Fla 3006's comment the right way. I don't think I would be the first to drill one. An example of what I like would be a aftermarket pad, well done, on a pre 64 M 70. This particular 22f seems to have the orignal butt plate and it's a light 8X57. Thus a pad would be nice and the price would be lower. I am not going to add a pad. It's a woods rifle anyway that would be hunted with a heavy coat on for the seasons here. I will shoot it at the range with a slip on pad and hunt it with the orginal butt plate.

Thus this Brno with the holes in it's front bridge and who knows what in the rear will be used with a two piece top mount that will cover the holes. If the holes are 6's and 8's as they seem to be it will not be all that hard to modify a mount to accept the correct holes.

Even if the hole spacing on the front mount does not match the base could be welded shut and then drilled and counterbored.


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manhasset,

The picture of the two screw sizes has been a major concern. I am sure it's why the rifle sat on auctions for a long time. The rifle is on the way to me and I have not seen it in person and as you can tell the picture above is from the auction.

I am not a collector in the pure sense. I buy things that I like and use them for the most part. I am also attracted to nice factory rifles that are modified so that they would be of more use to me. Thus I took Fla 3006's comment the right way. I don't think I would be the first to drill one. An example of what I like would be a aftermarket pad, well done, on a pre 64 M 70. This particular 22f seems to have the orignal butt plate and it's a light 8X57. Thus a pad would be nice and the price would be lower. I am not going to add a pad. It's a woods rifle anyway that would be hunted with a heavy coat on for the seasons here. I will shoot it at the range with a slip on pad and hunt it with the orginal butt plate.

Thus this Brno with the holes in it's front bridge and who knows what in the rear will be used with a two piece top mount that will cover the holes. If the holes are 6's and 8's as they seem to be it will not be all that hard to modify a mount to accept the correct holes.

Even if the hole spacing on the front mount does not match the base could be welded shut and then drilled and counterbored.


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Thanks Chic,

I have a 21h with the flat top and yes the 2.5X8 will fit objective wise just as you state. It's problem is the spacing between the rings which is less than many other scopes.

This is a long action and scopes with no objective bells fit even better but the tube hardly extends out of the front ring! This is not attractive and much of these rifles are thier looks.

I was going to post pictures of the shoehorn job I did getting the compact 3-9 on the flat top 21h but have not done so yet.

Perhaps someone could post pictures of the Burgess mounts? I an going to search for pictures now.


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