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27 November 2008, 09:58
Prewar70
A Vintage Winchester Hornet
I was reloading my prewar hornet tonight and figured while I had it out I might as well snap a few photos. This rifle is so fun to shoot and accurate as well. Hope you enjoy.










27 November 2008, 10:14
PJ
That is beautiful!
Pete


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27 November 2008, 12:13
Oldmodel70
Great rifle! Nice period scope and mounts. Are the mounts Tilden? Good pics......
I am green with envy.......... Grant.
27 November 2008, 12:30
Rusty
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing!


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27 November 2008, 12:51
DUK
Beautiful rifle, workmanship instead of plastic, very nice!

In today's money, I am sure it cost a fortune back then!
27 November 2008, 17:51
Prewar70
It's a Weaver 330 in Stith Mounts.
27 November 2008, 18:19
DMB
That is a VERY beautiful and classic rifle.
Probably the most desireable Hornet ever produced.
I just bought a Model 54 in 22 Hornet; haven't shot it yet.

Don




27 November 2008, 18:34
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27 November 2008, 18:42
Dr. Lou
Beautiful rifle. You have to love the M70. FWIW, however, I find the M70 and its action way too large and heavy for the dinky hornet. I understand they used what they had, but I am glad they have made actions that are to scale for the hornet. I bet there is not recoil. Lou


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28 November 2008, 22:13
Prewar70
No doubt it's a big action for the little hornet, but that's what I like about it too. One action that covered everything from the Hornet to the 375 H&H and 458 with a litte ingenuity. It's a heavy rifle and just a blast to shoot. If I get around to it I will post some of the groups I've shot. NOt bad at all with that little 2.5x, 3/4" tubed scope.
28 November 2008, 22:26
jens poulsen
Drool banana

I now want a .22 Hornet M70...


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29 November 2008, 00:59
J Wisner
Yes the M70 Hornets are very sweet.

I have a short rifle, 72,6xx that someone cut the side of the stock for a peep, and then apparently needed more length so then put a pad on it.

Needless to say that one day I will replace the stock.

But with period Redfield mounts, the old 7/8" square rings, and a 6x Leupold Alaskan, along with Speer 45 gr bullets and 2400 powder it will shoot under one inch groups all day long.

James Wisner
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29 November 2008, 02:03
shootaway
very nice.Thanks for posting.
29 November 2008, 10:48
DavidReed
Very, very nice.

That just makes me want a pre-64 hornet even more!
29 November 2008, 19:41
Sendero300
Beautiful rifle!!



Did the rifles come with the mounts and scope from Winchester, say on special order, or did the owners send the rifle and scope to Stith for mounting?

That's a jewel of a rifle.


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29 November 2008, 20:25
Prewar70
Mounts were put on 99% of the time after they left the factory by the purchaser.
29 November 2008, 20:35
22WRF
Prewar

Did you catch any fox while you were up north deer hunting?
29 November 2008, 20:48
jeffeosso
thanks!


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29 November 2008, 20:50
swheeler
Very nice indeed! thumb
29 November 2008, 23:03
Prewar70
On the fox, no. I was too busy chasing deer, so maybe later in the season, hopefully....at least I have the equipment now.
30 November 2008, 05:58
Alberta Canuck
quote:
Originally posted by DMB:
That is a VERY beautiful and classic rifle.
Probably the most desireable Hornet ever produced.
I just bought a Model 54 in 22 Hornet; haven't shot it yet.

Don



Gee, Don, I think your Model 54 may be just as desirable. There were fewer of them made than even the M70s, I do believe. The Model 54 Hornet did not come actively on the market until late 1933/early 1934, and it went pretty much off the market in 1936. The Model 70 was around from 1ate 1936/early '37 until well after the war.

Prewar70 didn't mention it, but the model of Stith mount holding his Weaver 330 is the one which Stith called the "Streamline". It was also made for the Lyman "Alaskan" scopes. It is one of my all time favorite mounts and I have several still. The other common Model 70 Stith scope mount was the Stith "Master-Mount". They work on entirely different principles. The Streamline mounts pretty much require scopes with objective bells small enough to fit inside the front mount ring, and work best with scopes which have internal adjustments, at least for elevation. The Stith Master Mount has easy-to-use adjustments in the mount itself, and size of the objective bell does not much matter, up to about 36 or 38 m/m.



I once owned & frequently shot a brand new M54 Super Grade Hornet, and it was the first Hornet I ever owned which would reliably shoot 5-shot 100 yard groups under an inch. It had a Fecker scope, the power of which was unmarked, but as near as I could tell was about 14-X.

My own ranking of preference for the Hornet rifles is in the following order:

1. M-70 Super Grade
2. M-54 Super Grade
3 & 4. M-54 & M70 standard grades (tied)
5. BSA Miniature Mauser
6. JG Anschutz Model 1432
7. Brno Miniature Mauser
8. Francotte Martini
9. Other Martinis


I have owned all of these (and more) except for the Super-Grade Model 70...I just never happened to run across a Super Grade in the chambering.

Anyway, if your Model 54 shoots anything near as well as mine did, I think you'll be tickled pink!


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