SXS 30.06 to rimmed

27 May 2007, 10:59

Con

tracks,
Your talking a potentially expensive route to go on something like a Baikal. But ... you could do a 30/06 Rimmed using the same case dimensions but using 400/350NE brass as your parent brass. Basically a 30/06 with a rim. But why not just stick with the 30/06 and a 220gr RN??
Cheers...
Con

27 May 2007, 11:28

tracks

Thanks Con, yeah I know it's only a Baikal but they are bloody solid, I know of one which has been customised and it shoots like a bolt and was regulated for 150gn at about 2500, this one I'm looking at has a asking price $500 I think new they are about 1300 and they haven't been out for long, the reason for a rimmed case is for ease of extraction if I remember the one above was modified for ejection on a rimmed case, just testing the water mate, it seems for 500 I shouldn't pass it up.....

27 May 2007, 13:33

400 Nitro Express

Basic dimensions for the .400/.350 are the same as the 9.3X74R, so that would work. I make .400/.350 and .400/.360 from 9.3 brass.

A .30R Blaser reamer would clean up a .30-06 chamber, and the CIP max pressure for both cartridges is the same. This would seem the obvious choice.
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28 May 2007, 08:26

Con

tracks,
Let me know if you pass on that Baikal. Just buy it and set it up for a 220gr Woodleigh RN ... and chase some Sambar in thick fire regrowth areas. It would be a blast! Finding a reamer for a rimmed 30/06 or duplicate may not be easy over here, I certainly dont know of anything floating about. A rimmed 30/06 though using 400/350 brass could be done by "just" cutting a rim recess and then I assume some work on the extraction system would follow. Damn though I wish they made this rifle in 9.3x74R.
Cheers...
Con

28 May 2007, 16:24

skb

how about the .30 super, also known as the .300 H&H flanged. Its qa great round, though components are a bit spendy.
Steve

28 May 2007, 16:50

El Deguello

quote:
Originally posted by tracks:
Hi, I have an opportunity to aquire a Baikal SXS in 30.06 could anyone suggest a rimmed case using roughly the same dimensions of a 30.06 case, like what are the choices in 30cal. chamberings.thanks........

Either the 7X65R or 8X65R case can be used. Just run them through a .30/'06 FL die, and trim to 63mm....... It is easier using one of these vs the 9.3X74R because there's a lot less neck trimming involved. The rim diameter is 0.520", and the shell holder (RCBS) is # 26.

I use RWS 7X65R cases to make 8X60RS brass. I have to trim the necks to 59mm, and running the cases through an 8X60S die shoves the shoulder back some. I don't know if your shoulders will be moved, but since your rounds will be headspacing on the rim on the first shot, anyway, it will not matter.....

I get my RWS cases from http://www.huntingtons.com/cases_rws.html

But, you may have a source in Australia.....

29 May 2007, 02:46

tracks

Thanks for the replies guys, will discuss some of your advice with my smith now I have somewhere to start,
Con I think McDonalds Gunshop has a new one in stock well he did a couple of weeks ago, he's the one who gave me the load info to regulate the barrels, thanks again.........

29 May 2007, 08:08

Con

tracks,
Whitehorse Arms had one that was stiff to open. I think Bob DeVries (or Rolf Bachnick?) relieved it a bit to make it smoother to open and cleaned it up a bit. Testing then determined the bugger was a near MOA shooter. Rough around the edges ... but with a little work they scrub up pretty well. Ease of regulation with the jack screw was a revelation.
If I had the $$$, I'd buy one as a knock around hunting rifle for sure.
Cheers...
Con

30 May 2007, 00:42

DobleTroble

The 7.62 x 54 R would give the same performance with stock dies and components. Its short and fat and so isn't dimensionally similar.

14 December 2011, 19:54

BwanaCole

quote:
Originally posted by El Deguello:
quote:
Originally posted by tracks:
Hi, I have an opportunity to aquire a Baikal SXS in 30.06 could anyone suggest a rimmed case using roughly the same dimensions of a 30.06 case, like what are the choices in 30cal. chamberings.thanks........

Either the 7X65R or 8X65R case can be used. Just run them through a .30/'06 FL die, and trim to 63mm....... It is easier using one of these vs the 9.3X74R because there's a lot less neck trimming involved. The rim diameter is 0.520", and the shell holder (RCBS) is # 26.

I use RWS 7X65R cases to make 8X60RS brass. I have to trim the necks to 59mm, and running the cases through an 8X60S die shoves the shoulder back some. I don't know if your shoulders will be moved, but since your rounds will be headspacing on the rim on the first shot, anyway, it will not matter.....

But, you may have a source in Australia.....

Bump. I am doing just this for my double ought six. I have 7x65R brass that I will be putting through my -06 dies and then drop it off at the gunsmith to have the rebates put in barrels/ejectors for the rimmed brass.Here is my question: what do I have the gunsmith put on the barrels?? I don't know what the rules or naming conventions are.

"7x65R-06"??

14 December 2011, 20:21

J.D.Steele

Just add 'RIMMED' to the 30-06 designation.
Regards, Joe

14 December 2011, 20:45

igorrock

7,62x63R ?

14 December 2011, 23:33

BwanaCole

quote:
Originally posted by J.D.Steele:
Just add 'RIMMED' to the 30-06 designation.
Regards, Joe

That was my first thought ".30-06R" but then I run into the brass matching the gun problem. If I want to take the gun anywhere other than the UK, they will have to match. The brass I have is headstamped as "7x65R" so I thought if I had the gun stamped and just added the "-06" a cheeky mm or two to the right, the airline/customs folks (who are not trained gun people) would match the two numbers and be happy. I would think its easier to stamp the gun than the brass.

Would that work?