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30mm scope ring lapping bar measurment
20 November 2016, 05:45
gohip200030mm scope ring lapping bar measurment
Could someone measure the diameter of their 30mm ring lapping bar. I know it should be 30mm but I'm not sure if they make them slightly over sized.
Thank you.
20 November 2016, 22:36
dpcdBest to measure your scope and make it that diameter. I have a one inch lapping bar which measures, one inch OD.
21 November 2016, 01:20
ted thorn1.181
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21 November 2016, 03:13
dpcdWhich is 30 mm.
21 November 2016, 07:38
gohip2000I just don't want to pay $60-$70 for a steel bar. I think I may go the wrought of bedding the bottom halves of the rings with JB Weld, $5
Just trying to keep my scope from slipping on my 416 remington. I'm using Talley 1 piece aluminum rings. I'm going to try and find some rosin to add. Ideally I'd like to have a solid machined 1 piece base and ring system like the DNZ game reaper, but I can't find anything like that that fits the hole spacing of the Winchester M70 safari
21 November 2016, 18:54
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
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21 November 2016, 19:55
dpcdAll I did was use my computer's conversion program; it said that 1.1811 is 30 mm.
I am not trying to be a jackass, fuckin or any other kind. Sorry if I offended you, or anyone else.
I was just trying to show some numbers to help the OP; maybe I didn't.
Certainly not trying to place any aspersions on you or your report. I wouldn't do that.
Hace a nice day.
21 November 2016, 22:35
butchlambertquote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
Come on Ted. Tom is a good guy.
21 November 2016, 23:27
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
Man! That was totally uncalled for.
Tom has gone WAY out of his way to help a bunch of people here on AR, me included. And been a complete Gentleman at all times.
Totally uncalled for, and you, if half a man should apologize.
22 November 2016, 00:12
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
Come on Ted. Tom is a good guy.
I'm sure he is....but
He has been quite sarcastic toward me several times through the years when I have asked a questions here on this gunsmithing forum......
He's lucky to have a couple guys to hop on and help him out .....
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22 November 2016, 00:21
speerchucker30x378The people that stepped up for him, probably would have stepped up for you too in a similar situation Ted. Tom probably would have too.

Just saying.
When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
22 November 2016, 01:15
butchlambertquote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
quote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
Come on Ted. Tom is a good guy.
I'm sure he is....but
He has been quite sarcastic toward me several times through the years when I have asked a questions here on this gunsmithing forum......
He's lucky to have a couple guys to hop on and help him out .....
Ted, I guess I missed his posts like that, but I have a lot of respect for your input on the forum.
22 November 2016, 02:39
JTEXquote:
The people that stepped up for him, probably would have stepped up for you too in a similar situation Ted. Tom probably would have too.
Yep!
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22 November 2016, 02:42
JVquote:
Originally posted by gohip2000:
I just don't want to pay $60-$70 for a steel bar.
I would not recommend steel for a lapping bar. For mine, I used 32mm cast iron bar stock and turned that down to 30mm. Brass would also be better than steel if cast iron is not available.
Don't worry too much about hitting the diameter down to the last micron - lapping rings is more about alignment than about perfect diameters, especially in aluminum rings.
22 November 2016, 03:52
J_ZolaNot sure I want to be part of this mess but I always thought the bar would be undersize to make up for grit size of the abrasive.
22 November 2016, 22:09
Idaho SharpshooterThat's our little teddy; open mouth and insert foot. And vulgar to boot.
DPCD is one of the finest people on this forum. He is always willing to share his expertise and experience on gunsmithing issues. He has likely done more rifle building this past six weeks or so than you have in your entire life.
You, on the other hand have contributed absolutely NOTHING to this thread.
Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "profanity is the sign of a feeble intellect or extreme laziness. He must have had you in mind...
22 November 2016, 22:22
Grenadierquote:
Originally posted by ted thorn:
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
Which is 30 mm.
29.997mm ......
The OP asked what the bar measures .....so I told him what mine measures.
You couldn't just... "go on" ...you had to let us all know
Now I know why I've always thought you are a fuckin jackass
No, 1.181 inches is actually 29.997
4 mm.
But of course 30mm is actually 1.1811024 inches - give or take.

The things people choose to get upset about.

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22 November 2016, 22:37
butchlambertMy 30MM lapping bar measures 1.184.
23 November 2016, 00:57
Idaho Sharpshooterbutch,
don't let teddy find out...
23 November 2016, 02:41
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by J_Zola:
Not sure I want to be part of this mess but I always thought the bar would be undersize to make up for grit size of the abrasive.
+1 on both points
Jason
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23 November 2016, 05:26
craigsterquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "profanity is the sign of a feeble intellect or extreme laziness.
Wrong . It was Spencer W. Kimball (a Mormon) who said "Profanity is the effort of a feeble brain to express itself forcefully."
One of Twain's many comments on profanity; "Profanity is more necessary to me than is immunity from colds." And there are others.
Next time, before quoting someone, you might want to have your shit together.
23 November 2016, 06:07
speerchucker30x378Without colorful metaphors, we would live in a world where rectal sphincters would have no course or direction !

:Me, just now.
When I was a kid. I had the stick. I had the rock. And I had the mud puddle. I am as adept with them today, as I was back then. Lets see today's kids say that about their IPods, IPads and XBoxes in 45 years!
Rod Henrickson
23 November 2016, 16:18
ted thornDPCD has sent me a PM and we are working out our differences in private.
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24 November 2016, 01:37
Idaho Sharpshootercraigster,
English Professor told it in class several times my freshman year in college.
It was in a book Twain authored.
24 November 2016, 01:38
Idaho SharpshooterThat's our teddy. Curse someone in public, then say you are working it out in private. Why not delete the post then, scrote...?
24 November 2016, 03:30
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
That's our teddy. Curse someone in public, then say you are working it out in private. Why not delete the post then, scrote...?
Rich....
scrote?
College?
In this forum you can indeed delete a post that you make but if it has been quoted you can not.....
DCPC should chime in on this thread ...........
None of our discussions are any of your buisness btw
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24 November 2016, 03:37
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
That's our teddy. Curse someone in public, then say you are working it out in private. Why not delete the post then, scrote...?
I could include you, if you like...
Rich, you aren't very good at this but you might try it...
Mind your own business
But remember....as I haven't forgot
You see Rich.....about 5 years ago on this public forum you called my wife a TRAMP....... rude beyond recourse..... but those AR members that know my wife also know that she can handle herself quite well and probably shouldn't have her cage rattled
You then invited us to Reno to "teach" us some maners......here again......you wouldn't want that
My oh my Rich....Idaho Sharpshooter.....We are flattered with that invite still to this day you 34+ head of Boone and Crockett elk killing sucker you
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24 November 2016, 10:56
npd345correct oh great craigster!! Originally quoted in October 1974 as the then president of the LDS church.
Other than this post I am removing my posts on this topic.
let Ted and Tom work this out in private as it should be done!!
shane
quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
quote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "profanity is the sign of a feeble intellect or extreme laziness.
Wrong . It was Spencer W. Kimball (a Mormon) who said "Profanity is the effort of a feeble brain to express itself forcefully."
One of Twain's many comments on profanity; "Profanity is more necessary to me than is immunity from colds." And there are others.
Next time, before quoting someone, you might want to have your shit together.
24 November 2016, 17:50
Pa.FrankI started using the Burris Signature rings.... I haven't lapped a ring since and haven't had any issues with the rings or accuracy.
NRA Benefactor.
Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne
24 November 2016, 18:14
Heym 450/400I started using rail mount scopes and left all these problems in the dust...

24 November 2016, 19:30
Idaho Sharpshooterah teddy...
trying to shift attention away from your inbred PWT propensity for expressing yourself at the lowest level again.
craigster,
failed again, eh? Your guy was less than a century late in mis-quoting Twain. And repeating a lie won't increase your standing here any, either.
Here's a second chance for you. IIRC, it was John Wayne who said, life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid...
take care, and have a happy turkey day.
Rich
24 November 2016, 19:44
butchlambertquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
ah teddy...
trying to shift attention away from your inbred PWT propensity for expressing yourself at the lowest level again.
craigster,
failed again, eh? Your guy was less than a century late in mis-quoting Twain. And repeating a lie won't increase your standing here any, either.
Here's a second chance for you. IIRC, it was John Wayne who said, life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid...
take care, and have a happy turkey day.
Rich
Rich, leave it alone!
24 November 2016, 22:25
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
ah teddy...
trying to shift attention away from your inbred PWT propensity for expressing yourself at the lowest level again.
craigster,
failed again, eh? Your guy was less than a century late in mis-quoting Twain. And repeating a lie won't increase your standing here any, either.
Here's a second chance for you. IIRC, it was John Wayne who said, life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid...
take care, and have a happy turkey day.
Rich
Nope..... I have no need to shift any attention
DPCD and I are fine
As for you......I don't like you
You sir are a Dick
Amongst other colorful things
Now..... you have the gaul to bring my parents into you're reply
What an ass.....
Rich, when you drop off the face of the Earth a pile of people around here will crack a smile in hearing the news...... please don't be tardy
Though I do hope you live long enough to meet my wife.
I could quote Mark Twain on that one but I will skip....
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24 November 2016, 23:14
Heym 450/400what's "PWT" mean? I'm bored and they kicked me outta the kitchen for sampling too much dinner

24 November 2016, 23:19
ted thornPWT
Poor
White
Trash
The funny thing is he got one part right so he is batting .333
Rich..... If nothing else is marginally entertaining
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25 November 2016, 00:00
Heym 450/400
Oh Richard...
On thanksgiving no less...that's not very Highbrow of you
25 November 2016, 18:26
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
That's our teddy. Curse someone in public, then say you are working it out in private. Why not delete the post then, scrote...?
Hey Dick/Richard
DCPC PM'd me..... I responded to his PM
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25 November 2016, 18:31
ted thornquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
That's our little teddy; open mouth and insert foot. And vulgar to boot.
DPCD is one of the finest people on this forum. He is always willing to share his expertise and experience on gunsmithing issues. He has likely done more rifle building this past six weeks or so than you have in your entire life.
You, on the other hand have contributed absolutely NOTHING to this thread.
Mark Twain is quoted as saying that "profanity is the sign of a feeble intellect or extreme laziness. He must have had you in mind...
The gunsmith/rifle build comment you made is no doubt correct.
As far as maching.....
I am a 30 year Injection Mold Maker......1986
Those who cut metals for a living know the speed and precision of trade..... I doubt you have a clue.....so google it
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25 November 2016, 20:27
SnellstromTed
Don't let Idaho Shart shooter get under your skin. He's a proven idiot, liar and blowhard full of threats and posturing.
Trust me he's not worth getting frosted over.
If we were all dealing with each other face to face instead of through these internet boxes we'd be a lot more civil with our retorts.
If not there would be a couple bloody noses then everyone would understand that they were runnin their mouth when their ears should have been on point....