what would i need to do to make a rem 700 adl in 3006 into a 6.5-284.

Just fit a barrel. Of course I would recommend truing the action first.

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Originally posted by DocEd:
I would add a Wyatt's extended magazine box.

Could use a PT&G Oberndorf bottom metal either aluminum, steel or stainless SA/LA straddle. $89, $125, $199 respectively. I just inlet one in steel and it worked out well. FWIW


Stephen

He has a long action, so the Wyatt's extended magazine wouldn't be needed.

DocEd,

The case length of a 6.5-284 is @ 2.17", the Rem 700 long magazine is @ 3.60". Is there even a 6.5 caliber bullet long enough to reach the end of the magazine while still retaining enough bullet in the neck to properly hold it? Seriously, there would be darn near 1.5" of bullet sticking out the neck of the case before you ran out of magazine length.

Even if there is a 6.5 cal bullet that long (and I don't think even the longest 6.5 caliber bullet measures close to 1.7"), what kind of twist would it take to stabilize such a projectile?

Just for reference, a Berger 140gr VLD is about 1.42-1.45" long, including the boat tail. You could lay it in front of the case and still fit it in the magazine of a Rem 700 long action.

My bad. I thought it was a SA.

so i shouldnt expect feed problems from the shorter ctg. is what i seem to be reading.
and i would guess the balistics would be about like a 6.5 rem mag
i want a carbine 20 in bbl

Why not pick something that is better suited for a 20 inch barrel? Something a little more efficient? Perhaps a 260 Remington?

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Originally posted by Westpac:
Why not pick something that is better suited for a 20 inch barrel? Something a little more efficient? Perhaps a 260 Remington?

That needed saying; any opinions as to what level a 20 inch barrel lowers the performance of the 6.5-284?

The cartridge was designed for long range target work, IIRC.

the main thing i was wondering about was feed problems. i already have the 06 ,just want something different, i could trade it off on a 260
a buddy had some 6mm 284 cartridges so i decided to see if they would feed.as they wont chamber but running them tru the magazine i encountered at least 3 feed problems that would be not worth trying to fix, dont want to go tru it all here but more than follower problems

I agree. No need for a 6.5x284 if you want a 20" barrel.

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any opinions as to what level a 20 inch barrel lowers the performance of the 6.5-284

From a 24 to a 20 130-175fps loss per QL with adjusting loads to a faster powder. You still gain about 100fps over a 260R with 140gr bullets. The larger case allows the use of slower powders. Going with a short barrel will push you to faster powders. In a 20" I would look 260 but you have along action so the 6.5x55 and 6.5x57 come to mind.

Barrel length is relative to the expectations of the shooter. You will gain or lose as much as 80fps per inch with some calibers but the average is between 15 & 20 fps per inch with barrels over 24" but the margin is higher for barrels under 24". The theory goes like this. Imagine your at a 1/4 mile drag race. The cars get the green light and start speeding down the track. These cars take off very quickly and continue to gain speed all the way but the gain is less the further down the track they go. Barrels work the same way. The powder charge starts the acceleration off quickly and the bullet continues to generate velocity as it travels down the barrel but each additional inch yields less gain after about the 24th inch. The larger the powder charge the longer the barrel can efficiently generate velocity hence the standardization of the 26" barrel for all Magnum calibers.

The practice of using stubby 16 to 20" barrels has sparked a crazy trend in the gun industry. Yes, they are very quick and handy little rifles but are considerably handicapped when it comes to velocity which directly translates into down range trajectory and energy. The 260 gives up approximately 200 fps to the 6.5/284 regardless of barrel length so when considering a stubby barrel it might be prudent to opt for the hotter cartridge.

Loud

I have built several 6.5/284's. Most long range dog guns, but some hunting guns and all on long actions. If you are going to shoot the 140 grain bullets you need the long action. I didn't find big feeding problems. Empty cases won't feed in anything, very well. I built three for one gentleman, a heavy dog gun, medium weight hunter and a mountain rifle. He uses the 6.5/384 for everything. I hunted plains game in Namibia with a friend who shot a 6.5-06 for Kudu, Zebra, warthog, Gemsbuck, Blue wildebeast, Springbuck and Jackel. He took them all with one shot. Zebra @ 367, one Gemsbuck @ 425, I was doing the ranging. The 6.5-06 might work for you if you are worried about feeding problems and has very simular ballistics to the 6.5/284........Tom

the bullets i tried were loaded 6mm 284 with long 100 gr bullets as they were handy and would give me something close to try.
bolt ride over on bottom round, and to much tilt up on ones going into chamber , just didnt feed rite , this is blind adl type magazine and were a pain to remove .
im sure the 6.5 06 would feed fine